Trick to refit drive shaft with out damaging seal?
Submitted: Sunday, Sep 07, 2014 at 20:22
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rb30e
Is there trick to refitting the long driveshaft with out damaging the seal in the front diff.
Got a 75 series and I find it really awkward trying to locate the splines on the end of the axle into the diff center with out at least some of the weight resting on the seal. It's so long and heavy, once it's most of the way in you have nowhere to hold it from.
I replaced both some time ago and now the side with the long axle is leaking gear oil from around the knuckle joint.
Going to do it again but don't want to damage the new one.
Going to do it again but don't want to damage the new one.
Thanks
Reply By: Whirlwinder - Monday, Sep 08, 2014 at 20:21
Monday, Sep 08, 2014 at 20:21
Hi rb30e,
I had the same worry on my 80 series so I removed the air pressure (I think) fitting from the top of the diff housing (assuming you are working on LHS) and poked a wire with a hook in the end into in the inside of the housing to support the axle while I lined it up at the splines. It was quite a few years ago but I think I pushed the wire in from the top with the hook already set in the end. I may have used coat hanger wire, don't remember. You can use the wire to lift the axle and wriggle it around till it fits.
After I got the splines engaged and the hub refitted I just pulled hard to retract the wire from the housing. Bingo, no oil leak either.
Hope that helps you or someone else.
Ian
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Reply By: Athol W1 - Monday, Sep 08, 2014 at 20:44
Monday, Sep 08, 2014 at 20:44
Rb30e
Common causes of seal failures in the Toyota front axle swivels housings include blocked breather hose causing pressurisation of the front diff housing, and this pressure will find the path of leas resistance to escape and that being one of the axle seals.
Another common cause is lose, worn or incorrectly fitted king pin bearings. This is especially true if the adjusting shims have been incorrectly refitted during a rebuild, as this then alters the alignment of the axle shaft in relation to the seal in question, causing the seal to be abnormally loaded, or even resulting in the seal not being in contact with some part of the axle shaft.
Hope this helps.
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Athol
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Follow Up By: Athol W1 - Monday, Sep 08, 2014 at 20:48
Monday, Sep 08, 2014 at 20:48
I add that any form of Camber correction kit can also cause a misalignment of the axle shaft to the inner seal that you are having issues with.
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Athol
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Reply By: Life Member - Terry 80FTE - Tuesday, Sep 09, 2014 at 21:48
Tuesday, Sep 09, 2014 at 21:48
rb30e,
The trick is to install it carefully, keeping the axle in line as much as possible,
originally there is a light pressed metal washer inboard of the seal, this helps keep the pressure off the seal, and also acts as an oil baffle,
problem comes when somebody previously has been too rough and the baffle gets damaged/dislodged.
A bent diff housing as
well as crook swivel bearings can also cause axle-seal misalignment, (normally there is a special jig to set up the positioning and pre-load) but,
note the seals orientation when removing and see if the wear is more to the top or bottom,
if top (and all else seems ok) move a medium thickness shim from the bottom to the top bearing retainer, or visa versa,
if you can get "Marlin crawler" heavy duty seals it should help.
Cheers
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