Mobile phone aerial

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:14
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My problem is. I have a 9db aerial for flat landscape connected to "Smooth Talker" phone cradle for my iPhone 5s. iPhones don't have an input jack for an external aerial and they rely on a "patch connection" built into the cradle to connect to the aerial. On our recent trip outback my wife's iPhone 4s with no external aerial was getting the same signal strength as mine when connected to the aerial. The aerial is a no brand about 800mm long above the spring and all cable and connections are good. Is there any way or somewhere to go to have the whole setup tested. I'm situated between the Gold Coast and Brisbane. Thanks.
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:40

Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:40
Hi Brad n Jenny

I assume you are using Telstra as your service provider?....if your not then its probably not worth investing any $ to improve reception once you leave the major populated areas simply because only Telstra will give you any sort of decent coverage outside the major areas

Next point is that the "patch connection" are simply a complete waste of money and if anything will only give you a marginal improvement on signal strength/reception......

If your serious about needing extended coverage then your going to have spend a couple of dollars on both your antennae probably and most definitely another handset with the external jack on the back....(that requires a patch lead to go from the fme connector on the antennae (standard fitting) onto the phone jack (they are specific to that phone type of jack)

Telstra do have some Android smart phones that have the external jack...and most of them can be purchased outright for not a lot compared to the high end smart phones

I have one that I simply switch my SIM card into once I'm out of normal range...SIM card adapters help this transition between phones if needed.

Antennae really needs to be a name brand (I use RFI and these are excellent)...and specific to the frequency your service is on.....I have two interchangeable whips onto a common base subject to the terrain I am in.........I have had signal up to 80km as the crow flies on flat country

Going to cost you a couple of dollars...but you only get what you pay for in this situation.

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Follow Up By: Member - BRAD n JENNY - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:48

Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:48
Thanks Bungarra. I always thought the patch connection were dodgy and I had intended to go to RFI in Brisbane to see what they could offer me.
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Follow Up By: Member - BRAD n JENNY - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:49

Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:49
Yes I am with Telsta
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Follow Up By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:57

Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:57
Did we meet on the Gibb River Road some years back?....perhaps Ellenbrae station

You had a busted spring hanger on a trailer and I used a portable MIG to get it together?...

Your names ring a bell perhaps
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Follow Up By: Member - BRAD n JENNY - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 13:02

Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 13:02
Sorry not me as I haven't got there yet
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Reply By: Racey - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 16:20

Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 16:20
Hi B&J, there are cradles available which an inductive coupling for the external aerial connection. I use a BURY with my Sony Xperia and it does make a difference. However it does not guarantee a signal everywhere. You can find a local retailer on the BURY site Bury
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Follow Up By: Member - BRAD n JENNY - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 16:27

Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 16:27
Thanks Racey. Since my post I have done some research and will be getting a Bury system 9 and I also found that the 9db aerial that I've got is a fake as it should be about 2 meters in length not 800mm so I'll be getting a 7.5db from RFI
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Reply By: Michaeljp - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 19:28

Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 19:28
I have a smoothtalker for my iphone 4s, with it hand held on the Kakadu highway i had 2 dot signal strength, sitting in the smoothtalker cradle i had 4 dot strength. So they do work. I have a 800 - 900 mm broomstick RFI aerial on the bullbar.
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Follow Up By: Member - BRAD n JENNY - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 19:40

Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 19:40
I agree Michael as I had a smooth talker with my old 4s and it covered the entire back of the phone which is important because the aerial in the phone is near the top but the newer smooth talker "striker" cradle is lower and doesn't cover the aerial so the patch type connection isn't good and smooth talker don't seem to have one the same for the 5s so I'm going for a Bury system 9 and an RFI aerial
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Follow Up By: Michaeljp - Thursday, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:13

Thursday, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:13
So i take it you do not have this cradle? As it shows the whole back of the phone is covered http://www.thfcomms.com.au/iPhone-cradle.html

Im awaiting their new cradle for the iPhone 6 due in next month. Smoothtalker iPhone 6
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Follow Up By: Member - BRAD n JENNY - Thursday, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:31

Thursday, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:31
Thanks Michael, I hadn't seen that one for the 5s but have decided on the Bury
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Reply By: Gronk - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 19:38

Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 19:38
I have a RFI aerial and a carcomm inductive cradle...both sit in the garage.

Made zero difference to the reception on my Nokia 920 phone...I even removed the aerial and put it in a tree 10 ft above the 4wd ( at a place that was a marginal maybe 1 bar reception ) to no avail..

Complete waste of time and I wouldn't buy another brand unless I was certain it would work.
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Follow Up By: Member - BRAD n JENNY - Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 19:42

Wednesday, Nov 19, 2014 at 19:42
Thanks Gronk
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Reply By: jacent - Thursday, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:52

Thursday, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:52
Apparently the iPhone 4s are the best for reception in the apple range, so this may also be a cause to the difference too
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Follow Up By: Member - BRAD n JENNY - Thursday, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:35

Thursday, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:35
That could be the case also, thanks for the imput Jacent
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Friday, Nov 21, 2014 at 06:03

Friday, Nov 21, 2014 at 06:03
Jacent is right. The Kondinin Group and Choice tests about 15 Next G phones every year in the country against a repeatable standard. The Iphone 4 and 4s had fantastic reception. The Iphone 5 was average at best. You can google their reports.

Also having tried several inductive antenna cradles on a few phones over the years I have come to the conclusion that they are a complete waste of money, and none improve the reception one little bit. I got an old Motorola phone that has an external antenna plug and the same antennas with a direct plug work a treat.
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Follow Up By: hearme - Friday, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:44

Friday, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:44
Agree that the Iphone 4 does have better reception and a much better antenna design but there are a few tricks you can try to get more out of the Iphone 5 if you have a Smoothtalker cradle.
The problem comes from there physically being two antennas in the 5.
By using the supplied cigarette lighter charger it can force the Phone to switch antennas and improve the signal.

If you need to get a charger try Comnet Solutions
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