How does this scam work
Submitted: Friday, Nov 21, 2014 at 15:39
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Lachie
Hi
I have had this offer on my CT before which is advertised for sale.
He works for New Zealand Oil and Gas and wants to purchase my CT. He is working on a rig with no phone , only internet.
He would like to pay through a PayPal linked up with an ANZ bank account or alternatively I send my bsb acct name and number if I have no PayPal acct.
A shipping agent will come and pick it up.
If money is put into my Pay Pal or my bank account how secure is that ?
Lachie
Reply By: TomH - Friday, Nov 21, 2014 at 17:09
Friday, Nov 21, 2014 at 17:09
Dont even reply Tell him to F off.
It usually works that he has a cheque he will pay with but it will be more than you ask for the CT.
He will ask you to accept it and refund the overpayment via Western union or to a paypal account.
You will never see the shipping agent cos there isnt one. There is no oil rig either. Hes probably in Nigeria or India
You will never get the money either cos it will be a dud cheque and he will want you to refund before it has time to clear.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Friday, Nov 21, 2014 at 23:52
Friday, Nov 21, 2014 at 23:52
How do you tell him to F off without replying???????
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Reply By: Member - johnat - Friday, Nov 21, 2014 at 22:02
Friday, Nov 21, 2014 at 22:02
How it works is quite simple, really!
They pay into a PayPal account, you send them the goods. BUT, before the item arrives there, they lodge a "not delivered" claim and their payment is frozen but the delivery service still delivers the item. So ... they have the item delivered, and a refund of the payment due to "non-delivery".
Same works for the bank deposit, as they can easily claim that the item is not delivered, even if it HAS been!
One reason for items of significant value (for
mine, anything over around 300 bucks) to use an escrow service, who will hold the payment until the item is delivered (and confirmed). Works for honest buyers - not sure how it goes for dishonest ones!
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Reply By: Member - Markthemilko (WA) - Saturday, Nov 22, 2014 at 00:47
Saturday, Nov 22, 2014 at 00:47
I advertised a floor sander ($2,500) on GumTree the next day, had an sms at 2am, telling me that he wanted to buy it but was overseas. So would I reply by email & delete the ad. Did so, & back came a 'look-alike' Paypal account with the $2,500 + $500 for freight & would I wire him the $500 via Weston Union to an account in Malaysia, and then I'd get my money ($3,000)!
Told him where to go and he replied that I was 'mandated' to pay him, & threatened me with legal action.
Dumped it all into the delete box and heard no more.
PS who in their right mind would buy a used product without seeing & testing it anyway?
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Reply By: Ron N - Saturday, Nov 22, 2014 at 01:12
Saturday, Nov 22, 2014 at 01:12
Just tell them you'll take $5000 in an Australian money order only, as deposit, and you'll hold the item until he turns up in person, to pick it up!! [;-)
The internet is the dreamworld of scammers. Until you have proof of the persons bona fides, and you can cross
check on any details given, you are wise not to deal with anyone who is always "on a rig", "tied up", "moving house", or any other "location" that cannot be tracked down immediately.
The classic technique scammers use, is that they are always in a hurry - and they need you to hurry.
They're in a hurry, alright! They're in a hurry, because they are always concerned the law will catch up with them!!
If you get a query or inquiry that looks a little suspicious, just copy the name or sections of the email into Google and you'll often find a site where someone is complaining about being scammed, and outlining precisely the same name or email wording!
Cheers, Ron.
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