Digital SLR Cameras

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Hi all,
This may have been covered in here before, but I am trying to find out which is a really good camera for the buck?. Good quality easy enough to use, and great pics. Also must have blue tooth so I can transfer to my phone quickly.
Thanks in advance
Rod
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Reply By: Bigfish - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 08:18

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 08:18
Just use your fone...
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Follow Up By: Grumblebum and the Dragon - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:16

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:16
Great lenses in the phones... I don't think

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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:46

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:46
But surprisingly adequate for Happy Snaps.
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Reply By: Lachie - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 08:43

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 08:43
Hi Rod
Have been looking into this myself of late.
Phones might take reasonable pictures but don,t give you the range as a proper camera, especially in poor light ( My nokia anyway ).

My brother is a bit of a camera buff and gave me these web sites as an alternative to the DSLR just to think about.
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/6489685206/enthusiast-compact-camera-roundup/7

http://www.cameralabs.com/buyers_guide/superzoom/best_superzoom_camera.shtml

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7118583476/dpreview-recommends-best-compact-cameras-for-travel

http://beta.techradar.com/news/photography-video-capture/cameras/best-bridge-camera-125950

I would like, say a Nikon with a 18mm-300mm lense.
Still doing research.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:17

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:17
Thanks Lachie,
Great info , will help for sure.
I am with you that phones cant take quality pics like a camera. I was never intending to use my phone for the pics even though the Samsung galaxy does take pretty good pics.
I just wanted to be able to send the pics to my phone / laptop via blue tooth or wifi.
Thanks for the links that Nikon sounds pretty close to what we are looking for.
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Follow Up By: Member - Silverchrome - Friday, Dec 12, 2014 at 07:33

Friday, Dec 12, 2014 at 07:33
The new SONY Xperia Z3 smartphone has raised the bar considerably for phone cameras.
It has a 20.7 megapixel camera ands the world's first ISO 12800 sensitivity for poor light conditions (a bugbear of phone cameras as mentioned).
It is also completely waterproof to the extent that you can take it with diving or snorkelling to film underwater.

I know this is not what the OP wants but just to inform readers that there has recently been a quantum leap in camera technology used in phones.

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Follow Up By: scandal - Friday, Dec 12, 2014 at 16:58

Friday, Dec 12, 2014 at 16:58
I have a older sony (ericson)Z2 phone, underwater capabilities with the Z2 is limited to 1.5 meters, I can't say for sure about the Z3, also it has great inbuilt photoshop features/settings and a 20 megapixel camera but as soon as you start using the special affects/settings the photo resolution drops back to 8 mp, oh, and it makes good phone calls :)
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Reply By: AlbyNSW - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 08:48

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 08:48
Nikon v Canon a bit like Holden V Ford
Pick which camp you want to be in via which package gives you the best value for money I went with Canon because at the time their current model had superior features to the Nikon equivalent in the same price point but I don't think it matters other than that.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:21

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:21
Thanks Alby,
You most likely right. just having a bit of a look at Cannon models mentioned on here. Have not looked at Nikon just yet.
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Follow Up By: Steve in Kakadu - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:45

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:45
We have 2 cannon's, a 400 D and a 50 D with 4 lenses, we love them, the only time I hate them is when she brings them fishing, once she has the camera in hand, It is pointless fishing so I end up putting the rods down and just steer the boat. LOL
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Reply By: vk1dx - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 08:48

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 08:48
I find that I must agree with lachie

A phone is okay for "selfies" but once you get into serious or even just good family and holiday photography I believe that a phone would run way short of features like a good camera would have for the hobbyist. I am not a photography nut so I am not able to really argue the point. It's just a hunch.

We have a Canon 550D. It took the photo for our kitchen splashback thats 3.5M long by 600mm high. No pixilation and excellent detail at that size. Every morning I see it and want to go back to the central Australian deserts.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:26

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:26
Thanks for that vk1dx
That is a wide pic for sure sounds good
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:52

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:52
The end result;

Hamilton Station - 100 K nth of Oodnadatta
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:03

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:03
Good effect vk1dx but a shame about the power points.

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Follow Up By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:14

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:14
Thanks vk1dx
That's an awesome idea,
we all should have splash backs using the same idea.
I can tell your proud of it , Good on ya. Great job
Great Kitchen too
Stealing that idea one day
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:34

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:34
This may be drifting off topic but let me say this. We took some with the phone as you swing it around and no matter what we tried they didn't stand up to quality of the Cannon DSLR ones. I took about 25 photos and merged them with a trial run on Photoshop. The automatic one with the phone was pull of pixilation when blown up. According to the photo nerd at the printers, the photo from the Canon would be good for 4.5 meter.

Here are the properties of one of those 20 photos. All this is a bit over my head and that's why I like the camera. It does it all for you, I believe, and quite a bit better than a phone.

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Reply By: TomH - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 09:07

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 09:07
Either would be good but try each.

I have a Nikon mainly because I have fairly large hands and found it awkward to use the equivalent Canon which is a bit smaller.

I use an 18-270 lens so as not to have to change lens in adverse conditions which may let dust and dirt into inside of the camera.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:32

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:32
Thanks TomH
Good tip, I have large hands too.
I have never held either brand in my hands I don't remember picking up to look close and get a feel of any DSLR yet.
I like your way of thinking with the lens changes.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 13:03

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 13:03
Whilst I have the Nikon my still camera of choice atm is a Sony compact. Is 18MP against the Nikons 10 and weighs almost nothing in comparison.
I got sick of carrying a slingbag with all the stuff in and on our last two overseas trips we took a Video camera and the wife had the Sony in her bag.

Thinking of selling the Nikon as hasnt been used for over 2 years now.

Get even better pics with the Sony.
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 16:33

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 16:33
The problem with a lense with such a large zoom range is that it will be slow....or incredibly expensive.

regardless of the resolution and equivalent film speed of modern digital cameras, lense speed still significantly effects low light performance, depth of field and shutter speed.

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Follow Up By: TomH - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 19:18

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 19:18
Cost me $949 Now available for about $500.

I am not a perfectionist with photos so the advantage of not having to change lens outweighed any supposed deficiencies,

It is a Tamron 18-270 and got a pretty good review on DPREVIEW
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Reply By: Mungrel - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 09:48

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 09:48
I'm using a Canon EOS 70D.
Very happy with it, has wifi connectivity which is great for remote shooting, and transferring pics to my phone or latpop for immediate upload if I wish. (wifi as an alternative to Bluetooth)

I chose canon for the lens interchange ability. Overall very happy with it,
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:00

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:00
Thanks Mungrel,
This sounds very close to what we want.
I see the 70D has 20.2 megapixel
and the 500D has 15.1 megapixel even though its photos are clearly awesome.
Can you tell me if say the 28-300 mm lens is a better way to go for a learner rather than multiple lenses.
Also are these Cannon cameras easy enough to learn to use.
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Follow Up By: Mungrel - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 13:20

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 13:20
G'day Rod,

The 28-300mm certainly sounds good, Though I couldn't say what the quality would be like, certainly the closer you get to 300mm (or max zoom on any lens) the quality is not quite as good as say half way through the zoom range - in my experience.

Lenses IMO you don't want to scrimp too much on. I started off with an EOS1100D (the most basic of basic) and with a simple lens upgrade (albeit expensive) it transformed the pictures I took.

For out on the tracks I typically run the basic 18-55mm cause that's just what I have, but a good brand (Sigma, Canon etc) 28-300 would be ideal though.

This camera is pretty easy to use, I'm only an amateur enthusiast so in no way do I use all the bells and whistles, but for what I use it for, It's fantastically simple with creative auto modes, or the usual full manual if I want to tackle long exposure night shots.
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Reply By: Member Kerry W (WA) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 09:53

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 09:53
For what it is worth....Have done a lot of research on DSLRs in the past and was a Nikon fan but went for the Canon. Reasons being - Image Quality, Availability of lenses, Bang for buck, Reliability and battery longevity.
Since having it I am very happy with the quality and exposure in all light conditions. Its has been a durable camera I dropped mine off the side of a steep track in NZ and had to descend about 50m to retrieve it - no damage. Met a guy who was using a 500D he had dropped in salt water and he managed to flush and dry it out and it was still working 8 months later...I have no reason to doubt his story I met him the same wet and soggy 55 km hike in NZ.

Not the best camera around by any standards but for the money you wouldn't be disappointed

Nikon is still a worthy consideration but I am impressed with canons seeming water resistance and ruggedness

my 2 cents worth

These reduced shots were taken with a 500D originals will blow up to well over 1.5m


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Follow Up By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:51

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:51
Thanks Kerry W
Brilliant pics, could not ask for better.
Could you tell me if the 70D is an upgrade from the 500D
I see the 500D does not have Bluetooth but the 70 D has
I keep looking at those pics as I am this countries worst photographer, I just wish once I could snap a photo like one of them.
I reckon my better half will do a good job though.
I am glad you managed to retrieve your Camera and I bet that bloke who dropped his in salt water had a few words to say and sudden high blood pressure
If these pice were blown out to 1.5m I wish they would be hanging on my walls
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Follow Up By: Member Kerry W (WA) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:47

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:47
Hi Rod,
Have a look here to do some research - good reviews and unbiased,

http://www.dpreview.com


The 500D is getting old now but it still works for me - rather spend the money now on fuel/travel to go see things.

70D I would assume is a much better camera

There are a few more pics on my Profile
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:52

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:52
Good photos Kerry. I think the last one would go well in thread 105231.

We took advice from a photography nerd in choosing the Canon 550D. Excellent foir a novice like me.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:53

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:53
Thanks Kerry W
good points
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Follow Up By: CSeaJay - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 15:52

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 15:52
Kerry!!

Brilliant!!.

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Reply By: Bigfish - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:52

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:52
Does it have to be a DSLR? Many compact cameras do a fantastic job. There is a wide variety of lens size available, ofter 12-16 Meg, an abundance of photo varieties( eg. sepia, sports mode, flash, portrait ). Many also take a very good HD Movie. Mine even has built in GPS. I have used it as a movie camera set up on the motorbikes handle bars and the movies came out terrific. The pictures are also good quality and unless blowing them up to a3 size are more than adequate for most people. I can simply put it in my pocket or throw it in the glove box. Waterproof, dust proof and compact. 3 features a DSLR doesn't have. 1/4 of the price as well.

Yes , I have a canon DSLR with a multitude of different lenses. I just recently got rid of 3 other canon DSLR,s and lenses(over $10,000 worth). Why...only need 1 DSLR and 2 lenses that I haven't used in 2 years!! The compact LUMIX I have is just much easier to use. Professionals would not use it, naturally. People on the road, bush walkers, campers, anglers and any other outdoors orientated person just cant go wrong with them.
Canon, Panasonic, Sony, Nikon etc, etc.

Pick a model around your budget and I,ll guarantee you get more use out of it than lugging a DSLR around with you all the time.

Cheers and happy shopping
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:34

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:34
Thanks Bigfish
Very good points to think over
I have a camera I got from Aldi which takes decent photos
The memory card cost more than the camera.
I was just hoping on a trip sometime We would get a few really good pics I could blow up quite large
Possibly be of good enough quality to earn a dollar or 2 sharing them with some magazine mob
I thought DSLR would be the way to go for the Quality needed for really large photos.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 13:10

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 13:10
Rod, In order to obtain sufficient image quality for magazine acceptance or for massive enlargement, the image needs to be sharp as a pin. Accordingly, hand-held exposures rarely achieve this so a tripod is necessary. Take a look at any professional photographer at work.

If you buy a camera well above your skill level you are likely to not cope with its complexity and thus produce poorer results than using a more basic camera causing frustration. It is best to learn to walk before trying to run.
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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:06

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:06
Hi Rod,

Choice of camera is a very personal thing and depends very much on your lifestyle, budget and what you want the camera to do for you.

DSLR's (Digital Single-lens Reflex) have been popular with 'serious' photographers for many years but are being overtaken by the lighter, cheaper and easier-to-operate Compact cameras. The DSLR's had the advantage of an interchangeable lens which allowed a wide choice of focal-length. With the advent of the 'super' zoom lenses now available on the 'Compacts', interchangeability is no longer so necessary. In fact, if being used in a dusty location, changing lenses can introduce dust into the camera. The superior image quality of a 'better' DSLR is only needed if you are wanting high quality images for extreme enlargement or competition purposes. Most good quality Compact cameras produce more-than-adequate images for amateur use.

I make these comments from a perspective of currently owning 2 DSLR's with 6 lenses, 3 Compacts, and many varied cameras over the years. When I want to get serious, I still use a DSLR but with a 18-200mm zoom lens but most times, and certainly when hiking, I depend on a Compact with a 5-75mm zoom lens. And sometimes even the camera in my phone!

For the time being, I will retain the DSLR's with all their lenses and accessories, but it a bit like having a winch on the front of a vehicle........ "Occasionally useful but impressive". lol

As to brands, my DSLR's are Nikon but Canon are equal and some others are pretty good for the price. There are a host of Compacts available but wise to stick with well-established brandnames.

One special point to consider....... if being used outdoors in the bright Australian sunshine, cameras with only an LCD screen for viewing can be a problem. An eye-level viewfinder overcomes this and is available in all DSLR's but not all Compacts.

Your expressed desire for Bluetooth "so I can transfer to my phone quickly" is, I presume, so that you can send photos to others from the phone. If so then camera image quality is rather unimportant as the transmitted quality will be no better than the phone capability.

One way of dealing with your purchase is to clearly define the circumstances, quality and budget of your intended photography, write them down, then go to a specialist camera store and talk to a salesman. The alternative for economy is to browse eBay and risk a smaller outlay. You can of course do both if so inclined.

Good luck.


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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:43

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:43
The transfer with Bluetooth to a phone was also something I thought of too. My latest compact has a HDMI cable OR just whip out the card and transfer to laptop. This also guarantees you don't lose the picture and frees up memory in the card.

Like the comparison with the winch. Very true.

Of course if the finances are capable...get both. Even if you buy the DSLR secondhand. Many for sale as people switch over to the more compact cameras.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:51

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:51
Thanks Allan B
No doubt about it Allan you are a walking encyclopaedia.
Had to think how to spell that they are not common any more
Thanks for the great tips
your right about the Bluetooth loosing quality
its probably more about being able to email some pics to friends or whoever, may Bluetooth to phone to send a quick pic to the same but I figured a lot of quality would be lost.
I am guessing if I connect a card reader to laptop to look over pics and send by email would be better than blue toothing to laptop?
for quality.
Better half just mentioned she reckons most would just connect to laptop via USB cable.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:43

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:43
Thanks Rod, but not really encyclopaedic, just long experience.
The photo below is of my first camera, a 9th birthday gift from my sister. It is a Kodak Baby Brownie and cost 6 shillings including a film. And I still have it! Very few of the ones that followed though. I used to develop and print photos in my darkened bedroom using Mum's kitchen bowls.

Transferring photos to a laptop via a card reader or USB cable would retain much of the image quality, but sending by email will seriously reduce the quality, although still adequate for your recipients viewing.
Some cameras do not have USB connection, but putting the SD card in a reader always works.

One more word of advice....... don't lash out a lot of money on an expensive camera first up. Keep it simple and economical until you gain some experience then consider upgrading.

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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 13:22

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 13:22
Gees Alan, it was not long before that that they were etching the images into a stone tablet. LOL

Your last word of advice is the one to really take note of IMO.

There are excellent value for money twin lense SLR camera bundle packs that you can buy for similar money to some of the additional lenses that you may decide you need later.
Don't get sucked into all of the marketing hype of the gadgetry and zillion mega pixels
I have been involved in magazine shoots for house interiors and car magazines and a lot of the pros are using 8 meg cameras still and tell me it is more than enough.
I don't know if it is still relevant but about 18 months ago a work colleague was having difficulty in getting someone to print his images from his new camera due to it's high pixel rating
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 13:30

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 13:30
Your'e right about the stone tablets Alby, My sister could no longer stand the noise of the mallet & chisel, so bought me the camera. lol
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 13:53

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 13:53
Thanks Allan B
Thanks AlbyNSW also
Once more thanks for the great advice.
It goes without saying information from experience is Gold in all things.
Cheers
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Reply By: rocco2010 - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:51

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:51
Gidday Rod

check out some videos on youtube by a guy called David Thorpe.

He is a former professional photographer who has switched from DSLRs to the micro 4/3 system and he explains in layman's terms why and reviews some cameras and lenses.

Just food for thought

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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 15:39

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 15:39
Rod have you heard of or considered the new mirror-less cameras. They give you all the normal DSLR functions in a much more compact format and I believe that the lenses available are interchangeable between the different manufacturers as the mount is universal between brands.

A girl I worked with had one at it produced amazing results and the camera has some amazing presets that you don't get with the usual DSLR.

Here http://www.tomsguide.com/us/dslr-vs-mirrorless-cameras,news-17736.htmlthat may help?

I personally use a Cannon 600D but wished I could afford a 5D

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Follow Up By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 17:23

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 17:23
Thanks Duncan W
I will have a closer look at the Mirrorless ones. sounds pretty good for now
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 20:36

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 20:36
X 2 for Mirror less cameras.
Doing some research lately, I believe that these are now "better" than full frame DSLRs. Same quality but lighter and smaller. Apparently Cannon and Nikon have been very slow to adapt to these, they have tried to defend their dominance in DSLR.
I believe the Landscape photographer Ken Duncan uses one of these or one of the other fractional sensor sized cameras from Lumix etc.
Me I have a Cannon 550, but doesn't have Bluetooth and has superseded. It has been a remarkably robust camera.
IF you consult Wikipedia you will find an article comparing the various Cannon DSLRs, I guess there would be a similar one for Nikons.
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 21:33

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 21:33
Mark I know 3 professional photographers who now have a mirrorless camera in their kit.

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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 16:37

Thursday, Dec 11, 2014 at 16:37
Rod,

While I'm lusting after a Canon DSLR, until we become full time travellers, I make do with the following.

Have a Sony DSC-W690, that I take all the time in my "truck bag", and a Canon PowerShot SX10is, that because of it's size, spends most of it's days in the cupboard. The Sony is a great little camera, small enough to fit in a pocket, and has 16 meg. and 10x optical zoom. The canon has been superseded by models with, I think, 30 & 50 x zooms, and about 15-20 meg. You could have both for under a grand.



For what they are, they take very good photos, and are good enough to blow up to A3 size, or maybe a bit better. No Bluetooth, but I transfer images onto a PC, and external hard drives regularly.

Agree with one of the the previous comments, cameras are a very "personal" purchase. The proof in your decision is the quality of the images.

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Reply By: Bazooka - Saturday, Dec 13, 2014 at 01:25

Saturday, Dec 13, 2014 at 01:25
Rod
I used an Olympus SLR in the film days (great, fast zuiko lenses) but I'm now using a mirrorless Sony Nex6 which gives tremendous results. Much more compact than SLRs, which was my main requirement. Olympus also makes some of the best micro 4/3rd cameras around (Olympus OM-D E-M5 is currently being run out at low prices because new models are on the way) but after reading lots of reviews price and ease of operation won the day with the Sony for me.

One thing I really like is the quality viewfinder for framing the picture - many only come with an external LCD. Sony lenses are generally a little lower quality than say Nikon Canon and Pentax but you can buy third party lenses with adapters if you want to.

Couple of points - image stabilisation is important in my view, either in the lens or the camera. So is simple access to menus and settings. Wifi sounds like it is important to you so read up on how well your camera does it.

here's a review of my camera: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-nex-6
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Reply By: Mick T3 - Saturday, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:30

Saturday, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:30
Phone cameras with exposed lenses are a joke for a start.

You get what you pay for with cameras.

The Nikon D3200 costs about $600 and takes wonderful, sharp pictures, but is clunky to carry around. But it isn't so expensive you worry about damaging it.

A small beast at the same price might be best for most people.

Your best photos could be displayed in a state library in a hundred years time after you and the people who remember you have long since been chopped up for body parts.



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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Saturday, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:31

Saturday, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:31
I don't think you can say that phone cameras are a joke as they can take remarkable photos when the conditions suit.
Some of our best photos in our collection are using an iPhone but obviously there are situations where a SLR is the only way to go.

Having the camera with you and being ready in time to capture the moment is the most important part and the biggest downfall to the bigger clumsier cameras
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Saturday, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:56

Saturday, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:56
Yes, I agree with Alby.

When that flying saucer lands in front of you....... "Oh, if only I had my camera with me. I only have this crummy phone".

But if you are photographing your Granddaughter's wedding, then yes to the D3200.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Saturday, Dec 13, 2014 at 12:31

Saturday, Dec 13, 2014 at 12:31
Have a look at these Iphone images, not too shabby me thinks!

http://www.ippawards.com/2014-winners-landscape/
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Reply By: DiggZ - Saturday, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:28

Saturday, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:28
Also available for sometime now is wifi SD cards, just google wifi sd card and follow your nose from there. Could be your answer to must have blue tooth.
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Reply By: get outmore - Monday, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:43

Monday, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:43
I have a panasonic G6 micro 4/3 camera.
It fully integrates with my phone via wife and an app.
my phone can be used to take pictures and videos on the camera including using my phone as the view finder.
pics can also be directly transfered to the phone for sharing etc
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Reply By: alhow - Monday, Dec 15, 2014 at 21:46

Monday, Dec 15, 2014 at 21:46
I have the Nikon D7000 with a couple of 'kit' lenses and a 11-16mm zoom. My 'long' zoom basically doesn't get any air time so I'd hate to have to lug around a slow heavy lens all the time. The kit lenses are fine for most of us armatures so there are some good deals to be had and some excellent advise and info in this thread. Today's SLR's can be quite newbie friendly having the ability to function in full auto, semi and manual for those that like to have full control. I went from SLR's to compacts back to a DSLR and really enjoying it.

Nikon is as good as Canon is as good as Nikon!

http://www.camerasdirect.com.au/nikon-d3300-digital-slr-body-black-with-nikon-af-s-dx-nikkor-18-105mm-f-3-5-5-6g-ed-vr-lens-kit

http://www.camerasdirect.com.au/nikon-d3300-with-nikon-af-s-dx-18-55mm-vr-ii-lens-nikon-af-s-dx-vr-55-200mm-if-ed-lens

http://www.camerasdirect.com.au/canon-eos-700d-dslr-body-with-canon-ef-s-18-135mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-stm-lens-kit
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Reply By: Member Kerry W (WA) - Friday, Dec 19, 2014 at 09:52

Friday, Dec 19, 2014 at 09:52
Hi Rod
Since I last posted on this thread I discoverd my daughters boyfriend wanted to buy her a good camera for her (27th) Birthday (and a trip to Canada) coming up soon. She "wanted" a camera that took photos like mine. (see above)

I am a good reasearcher and know cameras pretty well. I also know my daughters sense of adventure and photographic style.

In a nutshell and after a few days research and pestering camera store sales people and trialling cameras - I came up with 2 cameras for around the 1K mark that will give the very best bang for buck. We actually bought a Canon 700D with a 18-250mm sigma zoom - as a starter kit for her....However what I discovered was the Sony Alpha6000 with a twin lens kit). I very nearly bought this camera except for the fact that it had a limited range of lenses available for her needs. I basically wanted to set her up with a camera/lens combo that did not require changing lenses while she is halfway up some mountain in the Rockies.
(In fact I nearly bought a Canon 5D for myself but can find better uses for 5k)....;-/

If you are thinking of spending around $900 bucks I think The Sony a6000 will fit the request you posted at the start of this thread... and surprise you with quality and ease of use - it is also WiFi capable.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-a6000


Just thought Id pass this on if it is of any help.
Kerry W (Qld)
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Reply By: Member - Rod F (NSW) - Saturday, Dec 20, 2014 at 23:10

Saturday, Dec 20, 2014 at 23:10
We want to thank everyone on here for the excellent information and advice.
I knew there would be members here with good experience and knowledge on the topic. Lets face it there are plenty of things in this country that would make great photos to look back on or share with others.
We made a decision
Dropped the wifi idea
Looked at the beginner end of Canon DSLR
Chose the EOS 600D
Then we found out Canon has a $100 cash back on them right now
Then we saw a BigW catalogue with the same advertised for $498
So we scored a good camera for us to learn more for $398
We scored an extra lens EFS 55mm to 250mm for $266 at Harvey Norman
and a good Canon camera bag at Good Guys for $75
Just gotta get out and get some pics now
Thanks again for all the help.
Rod
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Sunday, Dec 21, 2014 at 06:10

Sunday, Dec 21, 2014 at 06:10
Well done
That is a lot of camera for the money

Enjoy!
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Follow Up By: Member Kerry W (WA) - Sunday, Dec 21, 2014 at 10:55

Sunday, Dec 21, 2014 at 10:55
Good choices Rod - by ignoring some hype about WiFi you got the best deal going on an excellent camera. So easy these days to miss out on something great in amongst all the techie confusion.
Kerry W (Qld)
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