Comment: Unknown - possibly Yellow Buttons

I have come up with a VERY tentative ID for this yellow daisy. Any chance of a more close-up photo of the flowerhead? Cheers, Val
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Reply By: equinox - Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:42

Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:42
Hi Val,

Here's a couple of close ups





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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:21

Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:21
Thats good Alan, can you post these in with your wildflower post (unless you have already done so - haven't checked). With that detail I now doubt that my ID was correct. Will do some more delving.

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Reply By: Ron N - Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:08

Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:08
Hello John and Val - Do these pics assist? It appears this daisy has numerous forms.

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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:24

Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:24
Thanks Ron. Now that Alan has posted some close up photos I think I will need to look again. Anyone else out there with knowledge of daisies? This is the kind of exchange that I have been hoping to get going for wildflowers, with various people sharing ideas to come up with an ID.

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Follow Up By: Member - A J - Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 12:18

Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 12:18
John and Val - could it be a helichrysum obcordatum - grey everlasting

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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 13:24

Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 13:24
Thanks for that suggestion AJ, looks possible but my googling suggests that H. obcordatum comes from southern states and extends into alpine regions. It doesn't show up in Florabase either suggesting that it doesn't occur in WA. Alan's plant comes from the Great Sandy Desert.

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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 13:54

Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 13:54
AJ, I think your suggestion of Helichrysum might be closer to the mark though.

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Follow Up By: Member - A J - Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 21:26

Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 21:26
John and Val - what would you think of Helichrysum Tietkinsii ( Sand sunray or Tietkins Daisy)



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Follow Up By: gke - Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 21:36

Monday, Dec 29, 2014 at 21:36
Rhodanthe tietkensii ? See Phillip Moore p. 132
Previously Helipterum tietkensii

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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2014 at 08:55

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2014 at 08:55
Thank you AJ and gke - I think you may have nailed it with Rhodanthe tietkensii. Taxononomists are still pondering how all these similar looking daisies should be named, making it doubly difficult when we only have a photo to go on.

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Follow Up By: Jim2444 - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2014 at 14:39

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2014 at 14:39
maybe a little more like the "Rhodanthe moschate" Musk sunray?

This might help

http://natureshare.org.au/collections/53b3981ae35eb129840001b1/species_list?page=11
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2014 at 15:21

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2014 at 15:21
Interesting one Jim. Have a look at the Atlas of Living Australia here and you will see that a couple of the photos are labelled R. moschata/tietkensii - but R. moschata is not recorded from WA. So if the experts are uncertain then I guess we can be too! In any case it probably comes down to some feature that we just cant see in a photo. But I will put a note in to indicate that there is some element of uncertainty in our collective ID.

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Val.
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Follow Up By: Jim2444 - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2014 at 15:56

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2014 at 15:56
Interesting read... not keen on the idea of simply grouping both species simply as moschata/tietkensii... time will tell.
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