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Submitted: Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 16:50
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was wondering if any of the mines has tried any electronic devices we see advertised in the 4wd mags to control or prevent the rust in their vehicles?it would be interesting bye barry
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Reply By: TomH - Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 17:04

Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 17:04
Im not in a mine but I put one of the $120 ones in a Commodore and it didnt stop it from rusting Had rust in it a year after I installed it. Was done very carefully according to the instructions and a year later had rust in the support in the outer rear guards inside the boot
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Follow Up By: Les PK Ranger - Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 18:44

Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 18:44
Tom, not sure about these electronic rust prevention units myself, have only seen the marketing and read feedback from what I see is mainly happy users.

Tom, was the Commo fairly new ?
If it was older and you fitted this to try and prevent rust, there may have been previous rust repairs done poorly, and nothing much is going to stop that reappearing.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 19:10

Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 19:10
It was fairly new and rust free when I bought it and as i lived by the sea I tried one. Waste of time and money.

Hadnt been dinged or repainted and area where it was had been checked before buying.
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Follow Up By: Les PK Ranger - Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 19:16

Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 19:16
Shocker then, a year isn't a long time for rust to appear (with sound paint etc).
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony F8 - Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 19:55

Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 19:55
Try and get some scientific evidence the systems work, you wont, simply because there is none and they don't work.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 01:11

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 01:11
I don't know Tony F8 somebody with a scientific background must have helped guide them with some of the terminology. Electrochemical process, Unrefined state, Electron generator, Proprietary electronic capacitive coupler, Dielectric, Capacitor. I may be wrong but at a guess I would say Doc Brown may have helped them while he was developing his DeLorean time machine. If I was half stupid I might fall for some of the crap they claim these magic boxes can do baffle them with bull sh*t and a percentage of the population will be gullible enough to hand over their money willingly if they only new better.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 09:24

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 09:24
Batt's, do you mean someone like this?
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:57

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:57
Frank, I purchased some shares in this 'Rockwell' project as it had potential, but have heard no more from them. Now emails to them are being returned 'undeliverable' and their phone is 'not connected'. I am becoming concerned that the project may have stalled.
Do you know how to contact them?
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 18:11

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 18:11
Allan,

Many people such as yourself are wondering where their money went. You may have missed the news during your travels ...

Rockwell were bought out by Hyclone in a joint venture with Firepower International. The bad news is that the turbo-enfabulator itself has been killed off.

BUT the good news is - through extensive R&D the turbo enfabulator has been miniaturised without loss of efficacy and has been incorporated into the latest model Hyclone, dubbed the Hyclone BS. The company anticipates sales in excess of one billion and has signed a lucrative contract with Boeing for inclusion of the product in the next generation of the Dreamliner, codenamed Nightstallion. (Boeing thought the obvious choice, Nightmare, had negative connotations.)

Firepower International (headquartered in the British Virgin Islands) is a silent partner providing the R&D funds. ASIC will put your calls and emails through to the CEO but advise that it may be some time before they are answered.

Don't despair, mate! Investors' funds are 100% guaranteed by that wolf in sheep's clothing, APRA, who will doggedly pursue to the end any wrongdoing by any major financial institution, especially the small ones. If you're ripped off you could even get a letter of apology!

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Follow Up By: Batt's - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 21:58

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 21:58
That's excellent he could see oil to the arabs without blinking an eye.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 22:27

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 22:27
spell check - sell oil
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Reply By: Gronk - Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 17:46

Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 17:46
Mines normally spend lots of money to replace vehicles after they have served a certain "life"...normally a hard one...but rust isn't usually a thing that cuts that life short, but even if it did, they wouldn't waste money on snake oil..

I haven't seen a late model car with rust !!

It would be easy for these snake charmers to try and prove their product works...dunk a car in salt water for 2 weeks !!....won't happen....and they don't need to prove anything, they get enough suckers to make a living without having to back their product..
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Reply By: Flighty ( WA ) - Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 18:24

Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 18:24
Half the vehicles seen "onsite" personally don't last long enough to go rusty, especially the way they're treated.
As stated the mines are more worried about the pomp & ceremony required to get them onto site, rather than worry about a bit of rust.
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Reply By: get outmore - Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 19:03

Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 19:03
I've seen the peddlers of that useless crap name mines as being users such as kanowna belle and Telfer
just lies no they dont
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Reply By: pop2jocem - Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 19:49

Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 19:49
Most mines turn their vehicle fleets over at around the 3 year mark because of the OH&S ramifications and because light vehicle fleet costs are a pretty small percentage of their total replacement budgets.

Have a look what a fleet of dump trucks cost to buy and maintain compared to a bunch of Landcruisers or whatever their choice of light vehicles is. They get a pretty good fleet discount too. A lot of them don't buy either, they lease, so not too worried about how they are treated on site.

I know a guy who had some sort of deal with some of the mines around the Kalgoorlie goldfields areas. The water down in the pits and underground is many times saltier than the sea. Aluminium gearbox and transfer cases are quite often so badly corroded that pin holes appear where slush is trapped.
God knows what the insides of the chassis rails are like.

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Reply By: Crusier 91 - Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 23:51

Thursday, Jan 22, 2015 at 23:51
My 1991 80 series has been electronically rust proofed, have the toyota sticker to prove it :) hahaha
I live by the sea and my 80 is still rust free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its a bit like my early 1980's Adidas leather 3 stripe sneakers, they stop making them due to lasting to long, there's no money it ;)
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Reply By: Injected - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 01:09

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 01:09
Dalrymple Bay Coal Terminal near Mackay Qld, used to use the electronic devices but the last I heard that they were spraying them with a bituminised type spray.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 22:01

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 22:01
The devices probably rusted and fell into the bay.
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Reply By: Injected - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 01:11

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 01:11
All our Cruisers get the bitumastic spray done by Tropic proof in Mackay Qld. We are in the Coal mines.
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Reply By: Michael H9 - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 07:08

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 07:08
This guy did an experiment -

http://rustprotectionexperiment.blogspot.com.au/

It conclusively proves that if you carry a frypan in your car, it will develop less rust on it if you have electronic rust protection. Or.....he could be an electronic rust protection salesman who rigged the experiment. The internet is full of anonymous devious crooks...take me for instance, oops!

Did I mention that we are developing a new generation wireless rust repelling device that creates a warp field around your vehicle producing flux retardance to rust germs? Yes, germs my friends. It's early days yet, but our research has conclusively shown that the more unbelievable a propostion is, the more likely some people are willing to pay big money for it. There is a fact you can count on.


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Reply By: Member - Tony F8 - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 08:53

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 08:53
Lets all hope no one mentions "Hiclone" in this thread, oops.
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Reply By: Malcolm 02 - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:51

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:51
Lived on an island that had an iron ore mine in the 80's. The roads were sprayed with salt water to keep the dust down and the work light vehicles would last only a couple of years before the bodies were too rusted to be safe. They tried one of the electronic rust prevention devices and it made no difference to the rate of rust. The mine tried to claim on the guarantee and after much legal argument received a very minimal amount of compensation.

There is a lot of other fun toys to waste your money on.

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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 22:59

Friday, Jan 23, 2015 at 22:59
Have a look at this article on Retarding Rust Electronically.



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