Steering wobbles

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 10, 2004 at 22:04
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Hello to all.

We have a problem that we haven't been able to fix,
Can any one help us out please.

My wife Nissan Patrol ( 86 short wheel base ) has bad streering wobbles, once she hits the speed 70 km and over the streering starts to wobble bad.
We had the wheel alinement done and there is nothing we can see by looking under the 4wd.
even the guy at the tyre shop couldn't see any thing wrong.

Any one had this problem before. and can tell us what to check and look for please.

Thanks karl, my nick is tommytomato
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Reply By: SupaMav - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2004 at 22:16

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2004 at 22:16
Tommytomato . . . have you checked the steering damper? Had the wheels balanced? Checked the tie rod ends for wear, steering box, etc? Wheel bearings?
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Reply By: SteveA - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2004 at 22:18

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2004 at 22:18
try replacing your steering damper mate of mine had this problem with his troopy, new one fitted problem solved
Steve
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Reply By: tommytomato - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2004 at 22:19

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2004 at 22:19
Thanks we had the wheels balanced the other day, but i will check the others.

karl
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Reply By: tommytomato - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2004 at 22:27

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2004 at 22:27
Thanks steve, can you tell me what it does, and how much would one be looking at.?

The mrs wants to sell her after the problem is fixed, because we dont need two 4wd's.
the other 4wd we have is a FJ 60 i think it is , with one fuel and two auto gas tanks, 5 speed, air cond, land cruiser with all the fruit..

thanks karl
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Follow Up By: SteveA - Wednesday, Mar 10, 2004 at 22:40

Wednesday, Mar 10, 2004 at 22:40
steering stabilizers or dampers increase vehicle control under all driving conditions by reducing steering shimmy. Other benefits include improved tyre life, better control and substantially-greater safety.
Thats what some article said.
You could put one up from about 60 bucks onwards
Hope this helps
Steve
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Follow Up By: V8troopie - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 01:06

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 01:06
I had a Toyota steering damper break at its mounting bolt once, on my troop carrier. It made the vehicle quite undriveable, it was jumping all over the road at any speed faster than walking.
So, they are important and if yours is faulty it could easily produce the symptoms you describe.
Klaus
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Reply By: Gordon - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 15:00

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 15:00
Karl,

I think I would be right in assuming that yours is leaf sprung.

This being the case, and given that you have had the wheels balanced, then I would be dismantling and inspecting ( not an external inspection) the front spring bushes. I think you will find excessive wear in the bushes is the culprit - although I wonder why your wheel aligner wouln't have picked this up.

You might replace the steering damper, but in reality, this is simply a shock absorber which does only what it's name suggests. In other words, if your wheels are out of balance, then it will reduce the "feel" of the vibrations, but will do nothing to eliminate the cause.

Hope this helps,

Gordon
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Reply By: tommytomato - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 15:17

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 15:17
Hi thanks.

we took the 4wd down to the auto guy, he found that the steering dampier was leaking alittle, so we are having another one fitted today.for $118 fitted.

will let you know how it goes.

thanks karl
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Reply By: ianmc - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 17:11

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 17:11
The damper seems unlikely to be the problem as if the front end is AOK it should not shimmy or wobble.
When the alignment was checked did the guy only do the toe-in?
Some of them are lazy or ignorant and do not check the castor angle.
Little or no castor will have your front wheels doing a real dance damper or no damper.
It will also result in little or no spin back of the steering wheel after cornering.
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Reply By: chrisfrd - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 17:11

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 17:11
I doubt if it's a steering damper!

The hub bearings are always a problem with all MQ to current Patrols.

You will need to strip the components down and re-grease them, checking with a dial-out gauge for excessive wear to the bearing planes.

Stuffed steering dampers normally make the truck to wander, rather than get bad wobbles.

Chris.

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Reply By: Member -Bob & Lex (Sydney) - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 17:16

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 17:16
If you're going to sell it do nothing just sell it.
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Reply By: tommytomato - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 17:28

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 17:28
thanks i would rather have the 4wd safe for a new buyer, i would never forgive myself if they had accient.
What would the selling price be on a 4wd like this ? She's in very good cond 5 speed, bull bar, side steps, meatie tyres..

thanks karl
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 21:44

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 21:44
Look up www.redbook.com.au You will be able to get all the average Australia wide prices there for trade-ins and buying.

Cheers,
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Reply By: tommytomato - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 19:24

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 19:24
Just an update, the 4wd drive is back now and it's fixed, travels well.

karl
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Reply By: tommytomato - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 21:47

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 21:47
thanks, we also have the images of the 4wd here.
http://community.rockinghamgateway.com/
Look in the forum part..

thanks again guys..

karl
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Follow Up By: Member - Humbie - Monday, Mar 15, 2004 at 09:06

Monday, Mar 15, 2004 at 09:06
hi karl, did you have the wheels balanced on the vechile patrols like that
humbie
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Reply By: tommytomato - Monday, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:05

Monday, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:05
Yes i did.
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