Engineer's Certificate for aftermarket turbos

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 10:43
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A friend of mine recently purchased a GQ TD42 with an aftermarket turbo. Upon taking the vehicle to a registered inspection station (here in the ACT) he was advised that because the vehicle had been fitted with an after market turbo he would have to have this certified by an engineer. $400-00

Up until last year I owned a 1989 Hilux LN106 which also had an after market turbo fitted to it. No engineer's certificates were required then.

Would have thought that a product you can buy from many, many approved reatilers would not require an engineer's certificate to enable you to use it.

Anyone heard of this new law? Is it only in the ACT or does it affect other States?

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Steve
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Reply By: Trol - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 10:47

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 10:47
Hi Steve,

Just had a Schwietzer fitted to my GQ, I'm in QLD and our laws state that you must have a mod plate and certificate from the company that fitted the turbo, not sure whether it is an engineers certificate, but was advised to keep it in the vehicle at all times...

I will follow up as to whether it's an engineers certificate.

Cheers

Trol.
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Reply By: Member - Baz (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:14

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:14
The $400 is that from the people who fitted the turbo or from an engineer the inspector recomended ? I would contact the company that fitted the turbo i'm sure they would send you a certificate to please ACT INSPECTOR.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:18

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:18
The $400- is for an Engineer to certify the modifcation.
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Follow Up By: Bazza (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:39

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:39
Boy, thats not right !! not Australian either, wont they accept something from the company that fitted it or was it the previous owner who fitted it himself ?
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Follow Up By: Steve - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 12:52

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 12:52
Don't know the details of it's fitment.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 13:34

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 13:34
News to me, will call Kevin Williams to ask him for Victoria.
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Reply By: flappan - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 14:27

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 14:27
I would be looking for a 2nd opinion.
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Reply By: paul2.8d - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 14:49

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 14:49
I was advised by ACT registration inspectors to get a certificate also, to run sunraysia's on my hilux, they said the rolling diameter would be different. The engineer I rang said the wheels and tyre set up actually makes the speedometer more accurate and he would give me a certificate ($350.00) to say so.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 15:01

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 15:01
remind me never to go to canberra for anything...

what size rims are standard on yours? you can get 15 and 16inch sunnys..
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Reply By: chrisfrd - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 17:07

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 17:07
I found that too in the ACT. I've just moved to SA and so many things are simpler.

Simple solution to the problem is to remove the turbo, get the car inspected, re-install the turbo.

You don't need to make it look right, just unbolt the thing and bolt on the old manifold.

I had to do the same thing with my ROH rims, even though the fuc*ers were exactly the same size!

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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 19:44

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 19:44
Correct me if i am wrong i often am, but i thought engineer's certificate's were for structual mods or changes "eg", engin sizes that sought of thing, next they will want a certificate when you change your muffler or put on a roof rack there aftermarket most of the time, maybe you should go to Queenbyen NSW get it regoed there.
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Follow Up By: chrisfrd - Saturday, Mar 13, 2004 at 20:59

Saturday, Mar 13, 2004 at 20:59
Ok, Please stand corrected!

The Federal law is quiet specific.

It states that if you make ANY change to your vehicles performance, you must take the appropriate steps to ensure that the vehicle complies with the Australian Design Rules that apply to those modifications.

I'm paraphrasing there..

So, if you change your exhaust and it's louder than before, then you SHALL have it inspected and a noise test performed. If the vehicle is contraviening that ADR that specifies the particular noise levels, then you will need an Engineering certificate!

If you add a roofrack, then it's a no-brainer, as the roof rack has been designed to a relevant ADR and therefore complies.

If you were changing your suspension, you hit a grey area, but if you fit a new engine, boom! Engineers certificate!

I did the ADR thing with the last car I seriously modified, my 1992 GT Falcon. It was a pain in the arse.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen (WA) - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 23:38

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 23:38
I had a similar problem with my spare wheel carrier (popular type supplied by large 4wd accessories crowd). Upon moving from NSW to WA the WA inspector would not roadworthy my 100 series because of spare wheel carrier.

I took it off, spent $40 on a replacement reflector, went and got it roadworthied and registered and promptly replaced it. PITA...

Popular large 4wd accessories crowd said that I had taken it to the wrong place as "over on our neck of the woods" we get vehicles registered with them installed all the time "you just went to the wrong inspection station mate". Maybe they had a point... At one stage the inspector repeatedly asked me where the the distributor and spark plug leads were. I replied that they were not required on a diesel !!!

It was good to get away from NSW with its never ending inspections and countless numbers of different coloured slips of paper each year, however it was a real exercise in patience and self control when getting my tip-top condition truck registered in WA.

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Reply By: Member - Howard- Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 17:24

Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 17:24
Steve,
I can confirm that ACT REgo are requiring engineers certificates on turbos on lux 2.8litres. got caught out in oct when I purchased a ln106 in nsw and went to transfer rego.
Cost $600 all up to get everything done ie turbo , exhaust., bullbar/winch and rear bars, suspension lift and wheels and tyres. Involved lane change and braking tests .exhaust mods , parking lights all the s**t in the world.
you can get away with a vehicle over 10 years old as you dont have to get a ID check done at rego just get a spanner to give a roadworty and go in and renew .
I got passed at local garage than picked up on turbo /then everything else when I went for ID check as I had purchased privately.
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