GQ Patrol and dead Fuel Pump - electric?
Submitted: Saturday, Mar 13, 2004 at 22:18
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xfixiate
My Ford Maverick GQ TB42 Petrol Carbie job has a dead fuel pump. Have confirmed it is the pump adn not the lines etc.
Interested to know which make/model and where/how to mount it. It's on a duel fuel setup which means the main petrol tank is iunder the driver's
seat - 75litre. There's not a lot of room there. I was thinking inline in the engine bay - but since I can't find anyone who has done it, nor what model pump would be suitable, I'd apprecaite info from ppl who have done it.
diamond (
bendigo) replies to an earlier question:
"i have a fuel pump from repco.....
mine is in a gq and dont have any problems" but can't figure out how to send a PM to an individual member.
Cheers,
John Williams
Reply By: Bilbo - Saturday, Mar 13, 2004 at 23:45
Saturday, Mar 13, 2004 at 23:45
Xfix, I fitted a Repco pump to my diesel Maverick ute a few years ago. It was used to pump from a long range tank at the rear to the main tank upfront. I never had any problem with it except for a self-inflicted one. The instructions that come with the Repco pump are pretty thorough regarding locations, pump pressures and orientation. I'd use one again and they aren't expensive. Plus Repco are all over "Oz" IF it does go wrong.
Bilbo
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Follow Up By: xfixiate - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 08:03
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 08:03
I think your fitment would be straightforward - I assume that you would run the main tank nearly dry and then just manually engage the pump to trasnfer the fuel?
Pressure ratings and blanking off
the block wouldn't be an issue there (which are the things that have got me worried).
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Reply By: Ferret - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 00:30
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 00:30
Greetings, nothing to do with your question but I was wondering how many K's you get out of your tank. Do you suffer from loss of suction going around corners ?.
Cheers Scott
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Follow Up By: xfixiate - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 08:02
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 08:02
75 litre tank = 350 kms. No apparent suction problem with the manual pump, other than it sucks too much fuel for my liking.
Being dual fual means I only use it when:
a) I need the extra range or
b) I've misjudged the remaining fuel in the LPG tank
I'm more concerned at the moment with
a) how/where to fit an electric pump,
b) how to blank off the existing pump location on
the block
c) how to rig up the overflow tube
d) what rating pump I'd need
I'd assumed there was a kit for it but I can't find anything on the net (hence my post).
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Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 08:42
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 08:42
I had a Repco Electric fuel pump fitted to my G60 after the original one died somewhere in NSW. It was a hot afternoon and I let a mechanic fit it at an overpriced cost and overpriced labour cost. He fitted it in the engine bay which was not a good thing. The
old truck started hyperventilating out on the Jackson Oil Field in Western Queensland some months later. A kindly passerby to me to fit the pump as close to the fuel tank as I can. I have done this and have had no more problems since. I have been told by parts resellers that the Repco pump is no good but I have not had any problems in 5 years. I carry a spare pump just in case.
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Cheers,
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Follow Up By: xfixiate - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 13:32
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 13:32
Thanks will look into it.
Does the pump have an inbuild pressure regualtor, or was that instaleld separately by the mechanic?
Does it have three lines (input, output, bypass) or just two?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 19:16
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 19:16
Does the pump have an inbuild pressure regualtor, or was that instaleld separately by the mechanic? Must have...there are no externals.
Does it have three lines (input, output, bypass) or just two? .....Three
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Reply By: Ferret - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 09:15
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 09:15
Hmmm, what/where have the EFI's got?Might be able to source some like that.
Scott
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Follow Up By: xfixiate - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 13:29
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 13:29
I don't know what the TB42E has.
Happy to look into it if soemone has a reference (or better yet, has one)
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 09:28
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 09:28
I have a few GU Fuel pumps here.
Is yours the one INSIDE the tank, on the fuel pickup or outside?
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Follow Up By: xfixiate - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 13:28
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 13:28
GQ Carbie 4.2 petrol/lpg Aug 93 build
Fuel pump is mechanical on the RHS of
the block, just under the alternator (on left front as you look in engine back)
Since this is LPG the main tank is now a fat 110litre LPG unit, with a 75 litre flat alloy under the rear passenger side.
The mech pump has an inlet, outlet and bypass (presumably so when it is in LPG it cycles back into the tank, keeping the fuel moving?). A fuel solenoid stops it feeding into the carbie. However it creates engine drag so I'd prefer to replace it with electric.
Car was fitted with LPG from near new.
Can't find anything useful about GQ or GU pumps on the net.
If the pump had a GU Patrol ST attached to it I could be interested! :-)
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Follow Up By: xfixiate - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 16:20
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 16:20
OOps - wwhat I mean to say was - how can I work out if the GU (electric?) could go on?
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Follow Up By: GOB & denny vic member - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 18:31
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 18:31
xfixiate i had a gq and the fuel pump packed up i put a electric one down low as they have to be a ble to pick up mounted on the chassis and the bloody noise drove me crazy in the end i bought a gq original from nissan and never looked back about $140 at nissan dealer in dandenong
steve
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 20:59
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 20:59
The GU one is different....
GOB hit it on the head, $140, and it should last another 10+ years Id be happy with that... Bollox to second hand or cheepy ones.
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Follow Up By: xfixiate - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 21:04
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 21:04
Which one is the "Nissan Dealer in Dandenong" (am not located in Vic!)
Nissan Dealer in ACT wants cosndierably more than that.
The idea of pumping fuel all the time even when in LPG mode I thought just creates unnecessary drag on the engine (so figured an electric one would be more efficient).
I was also hoping that I could keep my knuckles this way. :-)
Will do the ring around thingy tomorrow - looks like its OEM.
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Reply By: Bilbo - Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 19:25
Sunday, Mar 14, 2004 at 19:25
"X" - The Repco that I fitted has only suction and discharge pipes. It's a positive displacement pump so if you had to shut the PETROL fuel off when switching to LPG, you'd have to turn the Repco pump off as you did the change to LPG fuel. Otherwise the REPCO pump COULD just carry on pumping, building up pressure and overflowing the carby float chamber - fire
hazard in warm engine bay. When I initially suggestsed using a Repco pump, I forgot you were using LPG as
well. That makes it a bit more complicated. Looks like the offer of a original pump as above is the easiest option.
Bilbo
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