Replacment rims for X trail

They pulled pretty much the same trick with the Pathfinders at the 2002/2003 model revision.

What....are you going soft and trading the GQ in ??????

Truckster

The Series 2 ST is still running the 215/70/15's with Toyos, and the TI's are still on 16" Bridgestones.

The only difference with the Series 2 is an interior upgrade which looks a bit easier to live with, and the inclusion of Cruise Control on the ST. Evertything else is the same as Series 1.

Regards

Mark FC
Nissan XTrail
Sunshine Coast

The bloke had 2 side by side.
one new one superceeded. One an ST one a Ti, they were identical.

Willem, its for the cook, she wants one, at least its a nissan, I nearly died the day she came home in a RAV 4!

I would doubt it.

the Dash is as annoyin as anything on earth. their salesman tryed to say that it
"Was safer for you to take your eyes off the road and look across the dash at the speedo than to look thru the steering wheel at the instruments".

They really think we came down in the last shower.

IMHO its to save $$ world wide, they just chuck in a different instrument face for each market!

1600kg maybe alittle too much for x-trail, nice for a Pathy though.

Hi Rob

I have towed up to 1200 kgs but I wouldn't like to do it often, and I certainly wouldn't tow anything more than that.

Truckster

Over 1000 people per month must think the dash is ok, and after 12 months ownership, the instrument location is no issue at all. I drive my Pulsar during the week, and the XTrail on the weekends, and swapping between the 2 is not a problem. By the way, I still can't agree with your statement about the Series 2 ST being the Series 1 TI. I have checked both Nissan dealerships here, and it just isn't so. There must be some other reason the 2 XTrails you saw were identical.

Regards

Mark FC
Sunshine Coast

Graham & Ann, I'm not sure I'd agree with you there. 1600 kg is an awfully big weight for a Pathy. I know they are rated to 2200 kg but it's unlikely to pull that up any sort of hill without going into low-range.

We tow an 1100 kg campertrailer with our Pathy and it absolutely dies in the b.. up almost any gradient, especially if the hill is more than a hundred metres or so long.

For those that know NSW, and Mt Ousley just north of the Gong, the Pathy drops to about 50 kph doing 3,500 revs (or so) in second gear to crawl its way up there with the 1100 kg trailer attached.

G'Day all,
From personal experience I can tell you how well an X-Trail tows ....not very well! I own a 120 Prado and a Ford Escape. Not long ago a mate of mine who owns an X-Trail, and myself, went away camping for a few days, with all the gear plus my Jayco campertrailer behind my Escape. I was shocked to see how bad the X-Trail sagged in the rear when it was only full of camping gear. To prove a point and to answer his question, we hooked up my trailer to his Nissan. Bugger .... this thing was nearly grounded at the tow hitch ... there was no way this was going to tow this rig! To confirm this I drove it out of the park and arround the block. That was it ... no further for me.
IMO the Escape is a much better ( similar sized ) tow vehicle than the X-Trail in all areas, no question!
Regards,
Bazza.

Rohan K, yes know the hill and have towed our previous van which was around 1650kg thru there and towed it for around 20000 km overall with the Pathy, and yes uphills can be a bit slow no matter what is being towed. I've also towed 1200kg with the pathy.

Pathy 3.3L engine is a good towing engine and around 3500rpm holds pretty well in 2nd seems the extra weight from around 1200kg up to around 1600 doesnt have a great deal of extra impact on its towing ability. But our new van is 2000kg and have towed it around 17000km so far with the pathy, and for sure it certainly does know its got this behind when you get to the hills, but we just sit back and relax taking in the scenery..

So IMHO having actually towed 1200kg, 1650kg and 2000kg Pathy fine up to around 1600kg's. Note...Have also towed the same weights/vans with our VS v6 C'dore & extra engine power sure can be handy especially with the 2000kgs.

The Ford Excape (as stated by Bazza) or the like with a v6 may also be a better alternative to the X-Trail for 1600kgs.

Thanks Graham & Ann, it's good to here from someone that has direct experience with the extra weight. My experience with our trailer (over some 14,000 kms) is that while the Pathy can keep "plodding on" (thanks to its fabulous torque curve), it hits that (plodding) point much sooner as the weight increases. I have noticed this when towing the trailer over the same route both empty at 730 kgs and almost full (no water etc) at 980 kgs.

Wouldn't it have been great if Nissan had powered the Pathy with one of the most powerful v6 motors, instead of the least powerful.

Have you towed any of you trailers/vans with a different 4WD?

Mt Ousley or Bulli Pass aint exactly every day hills!!!!

you wanna try a fully loaded tanker comin up there, you think YOU slowed down!

Truckster, I only managed to pass 2 on the way up. We were so slow I didn't want to hold up the traffic in the right lane while I tried to crawl past them. I know exactly how they feel but thankfully I don't have to do it every-other day.

EVen though I dreaded the 'hill' I think the south coast was my fav run while I was driving. all the way to Eden was magic.

Was a downer when you got Goulburn thrown in, Browns Mtn was scarey!

"Truckster

Over 1000 people per month must think the dash is ok, and after 12 months ownership, the instrument location is no issue at all. "

No, thats not true..

Over 1000 people a month have NO option if they want an Xtrail, they buy it with thebleepdash, that is NO WAY KNOWN TO MAN safer "to take your eyes off the road, and look away at the instruments" than the way its been for 50+ years speedos have been behind the wheel...

Rohan K,
No haven't towed the vans with other 4x4's.
It will be interesting to see what new model Pathy we get here in 2005, but either of the bigger US model v6 engines should be fine, hopefully with 3L diesel option. We plan of upgrading our 4x4 in 3 yrs time so there'll be many new makes/models out before then, just hope any new 4x we purchase has the rleiability etc of the Pathy...

"either of the bigger US model v6 engines should be fine, hopefully with 3L diesel option"

Yep, any of those would be a step in the right direction, especially the 3.0 TD (as long as it's not the Patrol's 3.0 TD).