GQ Patrol constant vibrator

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 23:26
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Hi Guy's

I would appreciate help on this problem. It seems as thou my GQ Patrol has developed vibration which appears at various speeds. It feels like it's coming from the front....who knows....Very noticeable in 5th gear. Have had rear uni's replaced, steering damper tightened as well different tyres to eliminate the tyres. Nobody can find the problem. It feels as thou the problem disappears when the clutch is pushed in..Eg rolling. Let the clutch out and it's back. some people have have said wheel bearing others said front uni's. Can anbody help.....This is very annoying. At the moment the fourby is like a constant vibrator!!!!

Just don't want it to be a diff or gearbox....CRY CRY

I look forward to your suggestions

rock hopper
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 23:33

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 23:33
Rockhopper,
Check the rear tail shaft, could be out of balance or a slight bend.
When the after market suspension was installed did they space the gear box down? That is all I can think of that has not been said already.
Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Ken - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 00:04

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 00:04
Wayne

I second your thoughts/advice 100%.

A vehicle I have had for 20 years from new and still have, developed the exact same symtoms very early in its life

Eventually tracked it to the 'tailshaft area'. New Uni's were a help in the first instance and a balance with large 'lumps' welded all over the place nearly fixed it and that was as good as it got for many years.

(I would remove and replace the Uin's and have a Machine shop with balance equipment do the balance).

Anyway a Uni collapse and a bad attitude about a DYI job gave me the incentive to locate a DRIVE TRAIN specialist in Melbourne who supplied and fitted new Uni's. When commencing the balance test, rang and informed me that there was a massive bend in the shaft that 'someone' had tried to fix by welding'lumps' all over it.

They straightened it and added one tiny dob of weld and it has been 100% ever since.

By the way, the specialists reckon the T/shaft had been like that since new. No doubt another BORG-WARNER midnight special like the gear box was.

Ken Robinson
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 08:45

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 08:45
You only have to space the gearbox down on SWB's...
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:57

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:57
Truckster,
Because Rockhopper didn't say if it was a LWB or SWB only that he had a virabation. He also didn't say that he had raised suspension, but going on his forum name, I assumed he would have raised suspension.On some LWB if the vehicle is lifted a fair bit and a vibration is felt than the spacers can help.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: V8troopie - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 15:09

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 15:09
Wayne, your comment "space the gearbox down" has me wondering. Would that not put an uneven strain on the engine mounts? Or am I missing something here?
Just curious,
Klaus
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Follow Up By: V8troopie - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 15:10

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 15:10
Wayne, your comment "space the gearbox down" has me wondering. Would that not put an uneven strain on the engine mounts? Or am I missing something here?
Just curious,
Klaus
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 15:51

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 15:51
Klaus,
The engine mounts would have a bit more strain but the spacers are only 6mm or 12mm at the most. The distance between the front engine mounts and the cross member that the gear box sits on is a fair bit so the amount of strain is small. The cross member that the gear box sit on is spaced down at the chassis rails and the gear box mount stays with the cross member. This sometimes stops the vibration in the tail shaft, by making the angle from the diff to the gear box as flat as possible.

On the early Troopies they used a double uni joint to get the angle they wanted between the gear box and diff.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 20:44

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 20:44
Wasnt havin' a shot at ya wayne..

know its a big issue on shortys, but dont really know any LWB with good unis that have had the prob...
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 20:57

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 20:57
Truckster,
Just read my reply, a bit heavy, sorry.
Had a couple of LWB that had a vibration and this seemed to fix the problem.

Wayne
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Reply By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 07:52

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 07:52
"constant vibrator" my mind was below my navel for a few seconds there wondering where this post was going....
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 08:32

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 08:32
so was mine !
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:06

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:06
hahahahaha trust you
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:15

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:15
I thought it might have been a new accessory....ahhahahah
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:19

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:19
you wish
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexik(SA) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:30

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:30
Rockhopper, DON'T get it fixed. You will be able to make a fortune just taking the girls for a ride. LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:34

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:34
could be interesting in traffic.. ;-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 10:08

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 10:08
where can i get one?
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 10:10

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 10:10
you'd better ask rockhopper...though I think he might be down the patent's office this morning...ahhaaha
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 12:02

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 12:02
I wonder how often he has to change the batteries though!
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 12:05

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 12:05
probably hooks up to the 12volt power outlet... hence the "constant vibrator"
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 13:35

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 13:35
Might even be dual voltage 12/240 ...I bet 240 would make it throb a little harder
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 13:42

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 13:42
it might pack more grunt on 240
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 13:56

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 13:56
Lyn, that brain of yours is getting lower and lower
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:00

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:00
Richard for sure I thought you'd accuse me of plagiarism....hahahahhaha... :))

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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:01

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:01
Richard I think this part of the thread ended up where your initial fears thought it would...lol !!
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexik(SA) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:04

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:04
How often do you folks need reminding that this is a 4WD site and not Disneyland.com
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:12

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:12
your words not mine hehehe

its where you were headed lyn
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:17

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:17
But Des,
rockhopper had a constant vibrator in his nissan and we wre trying to help

do you now if lyn can get an after market one for her new toyota
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:21

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:21
Richard...I'm headed for trouble for sure.....

I have to write down 1000 times "this is a 4wd site" -
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:24

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:24
I guess lyn is trying to say she "needs reminding very often" Des
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:25

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 14:25
I guess lyn is trying to say she "needs reminding very often" Des
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexik(SA) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 17:02

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 17:02
Yes Dicky, I told her to stand in the corner and contemplate her navel for a while with particular attention to that point where should keep her mind.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 17:34

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 17:34
ROTFLMAO, you guys are funnier than Billy Connelly, one of you even looks like him, and he is not wearing big boots or a blue jumper.

Baz.

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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 18:28

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 18:28
as long as it's not me you think looks like Billy!
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 19:23

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 19:23
cant be me
billy has pamela to keep him company.....lucky bugga
and besides I dont have white Hair
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 20:39

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 20:39
This thread seems to be one of the GOOD, the BAD, and the UGLY and the bloke with the Exploder. Now we all know the bloke with the Exploder. But who are the rest. Mrs Al...the GOOD, Des Lexik..the BAD, Eskimo...the UGLY. Of course you may change the positions round if you wish.....espicially using a Nissan vibrator...

Eskimo...we know that you do not have white hair 'cause you told us once that you were folically challenged...hahahahaha...an elephant never forgets..hahahahaha
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:28

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:28
Lyn, on the account of Billy, I guess we didn't recognise his purple beard.....
Cheers,
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexik(SA) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:28

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:28
Sorry Mrs Al, you know what I look like and I certainly don't look like Billy. It's not Eskimo either so that only leaves you. Must be the hair on your chinny chin chin. Besides, you have a wee bit of Scots in you so I hear.
Willie, Me BAD. yep, thanks for the compliment. LOL If your an elephant that never forgets, which part do you look like Willie!!!!!
Eskimo, you better make sure that you come up to the river in June, we might need to sort Willie out.
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:32

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:32
Des...you know what I look like too....and I hope you don't think I look like Billy...though...after a few drinks...I can sound like him....ahahahahaha....and..I thought I was the BAD one....I was standing in the corner contemplating my navel after all.......
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexik(SA) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:35

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:35
Big appology Mrs al, forgot to tell you to come out of the corner a couple or three hours ago. I guess your in credit then.
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:40

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:40
phew...there's only so much contemplating of one's naval possible..and I've reached my limit....
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:49

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:49
I can't even see my navel.........
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:51

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:51
just as well you weren't standing in the corner then.... :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexik(SA) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:58

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:58
Maybe he should be!!!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 22:28

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 22:28
I'll stand in the corner on one condition..that is that I get a mirror to see my navel.

Ahhh Mr Lexik...methinks you should still be the BAD.......Bad person(always picking on me), Bad humour, Bad driver, Bad ......hahahaha...I agree..you don't look like Billy..but you swear just as much.........I know..you swore it wasn't your fault...
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:42

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:42
Could we get the discussion away from navels, please. This is a sacrosanct subject in our household at the moment!
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:49

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:49
why? is this so Wombat
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 12:10

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 12:10
I had an umbilical hernia operated on ten days ago and it's just starting to get to the stage where the cut across my big fat Wombat guts is really, reeeeeaaaaalllllllly itchy.

This talk of navel contemplation is making it so much worse!!!!!!

I say get this thread back below the waist where it should be.
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 12:23

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 12:23
you mean above the waste dont you

itchy itchy itchy
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 12:29

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 12:29
have you got a problem with knees Wombie?
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 13:04

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 13:04
Below the waist is good for me Richard.

Anywhere except the belly button.
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexik(SA) - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 16:09

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 16:09
Hey Wombie, too much grazing and not enough galloping around the paddocks. Take it easy. You need to be in top shape for your trip.
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Reply By: rockhopper - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 20:26

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 20:26
Thanks for the advice and jokes guy's.....I will however get the tailshaft looked at. The problem has to be in the drive train region....I will keep you guy's posetd.

By the way it's a LWB if that help's. Keep that advice coming in, and jokes if you wish...

Rock hopper
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexik(SA) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:41

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:41
Thanks for your post Rockhopper. It gave us a bit of fun. Hope you get your vibrator fixed by the way.
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 07:45

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 07:45
We reallly wanted to help, but Mrs Al took us in the wrong direction

It was all Mrs Al's fault
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:22

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:22
go on, blame me !
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 14:27

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 14:27
did I say that?
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 14:31

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 14:31
Richard to quote you

"We reallly wanted to help, but Mrs Al took us in the wrong direction

It was all Mrs Al's fault"

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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 14:58

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 14:58
Not often i'm wrong but when i'm right....
you should really not lead us astray Lyn
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 15:08

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 15:08
I have several qualities....one is leadership... !!.....roflmfaoapmp
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 15:13

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 15:13
roflmfaoapmp???

Yu bin drinkin agin ...i need a translation.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 17:43

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 17:43
Its easy... I Know what it means, Lynda you must have learnt too much from Callum in the past few months
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 07:56

Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 07:56
hiya Bonz

I know what you mean.... :))
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Reply By: cokeaddict - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 22:39

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 22:39
YEH Had the same problem on my old GQ LWB,
I figured it was tailshaft so i decided to book it in for a shaft balance or repair, while i was on the phone, my wife looked at me kinda funny.

After i got off the phone, she told me NOT to get it fixed. When i asked why not, she said it was sthe ONLY reason why she came on the trips, she got off on it. Here i was thinking that smile was cause she was happy to be here with me !

Just kidding guys...and NO she cant ride with you guys!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexik(SA) - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 10:48

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 10:48
Spoil Sport
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:29

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:29
WHAT ? you mean you got rid of the GQ... R U nuts !...ahahahhahah...
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexik(SA) - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 16:15

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 16:15
Cokey, If you don't want the little lady to have some fun, she can ride with Lynny.
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 16:23

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 16:23
what ARE you implying Des?
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 18:01

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 18:01
i'm keeping out of this one
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexik(SA) - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 23:00

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 23:00
ALL I'm implying Mrs Al is that I wouldn't be game to offer Mrs Coke addict a ride with me as I do value my personal safety despite what the Peterborough Ponderer might think.
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Reply By: rockhopper - Monday, Apr 05, 2004 at 23:48

Monday, Apr 05, 2004 at 23:48
Hi guy's

Seem's as thou that constant vibratation was the LSD shuddering. Fix the prob with Penrite limslip 140.

Anyway thanks for the advice

Rock hopper
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