100 Series TD
Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 18:19
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Garry
Have a Late 97 (40th anniversary) 80 series. Done 170Kms and haven't had a thing go wrong with it. Am considering trading up to a 100TD but keep reading (these pages) about problems with them. Can any recent owners who have gone the same way advise please. Are they as good?
Reply By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 18:39
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 18:39
Hi Garry
we recently sold our 80 Series [40th anniv] and upgraded to a 100TD. The 80 was a great vehicle, but the 100 is so much more comfortable to drive. We've only just clocked up 5000kms on it, and so far [fingers crossed, touch wood..etc etc] we've had no problems and no complaints...it's a great vehicle...
cheers
Lyn
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Reply By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 19:02
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 19:02
forgot to say Garry, if you click on my rig
pic - which obviously isn't a 100TD, you will see our new car
Lyn
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:04
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:04
Hi Garry
Cant advise only to say the motor is basically thesame as u have with electronic injection pump and intercooler. Apparently made a difference possitively to power, but negitively to consumption. There is word around that a better version is coming with common rail injection some time 2005.
That said, it would be a shame to trade the limo in with sooooooooooo many of us wanting to get into one.....
Aslong as it is a white one, and auto, i may have a chance convincing my better half to get out of her 94 petrol...lol
Andrew
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Topend - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 21:13
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 21:13
Hi DOZER,
I have a 100TD and the fuel economy is excellent. In fact it defies the wieght of the vehicle. On a trip from
Darwin down to
Hobart via Townsville and back via
Adelaide we averaged about 11 litres per 100km. Our vehicle wieght when travelling is about 3000kg and we would sit on the speed limit where there was one and about 120km/h where there wasn't..
I have since installed a Dtronic and this has had no adverse affect on fuel consumption but has improved low down power greatly. Even travelling on our unrestricted roads at 150-160km/h (only done this once)it only uses 15.5 litres per 100km.
The other difference not mentioned with this engine is Toyota have improved the main and/or bigend bearings as there were some problems on the 80 Series.
Cheers,
Topend.
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 22:10
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 22:10
Hi Topend
In 1995, Toyota released the 1hdft multivalve, and that is the motor i was refering to. Prior to that, the 1hdt had bigend problems, but after the 1hdft, none.
The 1hdft was also what i was basing my comparison consumption figures on aswell, as good as 10l/100kms can be got from a trip in one of these.
Given, the 100 carries more weight to begin with, the only thing i have heard that is a downer with the new 1hdfte motor is the background noise when using a
HF radio.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 01, 2004 at 10:49
Thursday, Apr 01, 2004 at 10:49
Garry, i have a 99 Ford Explorer have had no problem's i think you should up grade to an explorer much better vehicle more comfortable easy to drive and you don't have to get out to lock the hub's in like all these old fashion vehicle's.
Baz.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:09
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:09
We have a two year old 100 series TD and it has been terrific. It is said that the wheel travel on the front end is less but we have not had any problems with limited wheel travel. Plenty of people drive lots of other fourbies with IFS and it doesn't seem to be an issue. Really the only problem with the
suspension that I have found is that the IFS shockers are shorter and quite a lot smaller than the live axle shocks. Apparently the IFS is more supple like Jen's skin and that contributes to more movement and these front shocks are more prone to overheating. I also reckon the service costs negate a lot of the savings on fuel but that's life.
It is a fantastic car really.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew R (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:27
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:27
Hey Andrew,
I think I saw yor rig driving up KG road about 4.30 pm with Jen driving.
Would I be right? Looked like your Rig
Pic.
I think we live in the same area.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:32
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:32
4.30pm! Was at work until 7.30pm and haven't been in my rig today! May Jen was with her boyfriend - tell me more!!
Dunno what KG road is - we live in
Melbourne's east!
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew R (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:41
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:41
Sorry. Must be mistaken.
I thought you were from the W'dyte area. I also thought I had emailed you last year about my O'briens camper as I know you are wanting one.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:48
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:48
I am the one! Live in W'dyte but on the south side of the river. Rarely go onto the north side. Have still not bought a camper but tomorrow
bright and early are going to pick up my Uncle's O'Briens camper to take away to
Birdsville and surrounds. Will be interesting to see how it goes. How's you Tvan going. Would like one of them but want a tinny and not sure if I really want it on top of my car. Will be interesting trying out the O'Briens camper in the next couple of weeks.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew R (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:57
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 20:57
Tvan has been great. Going away at
Easter in it. Just a warm up for our 12 week trip to the West and Kimberleys etc. in May.
The O'briens was also great. Just a bit heavy. Ours was a big one with all the gizmo's. The only problem with a tinny on the camper is you will probaly have to put it on the car anyway to take to the water. Depends where you are I suppose.
How long are you going away for?
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 21:08
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 21:08
Good point about the boat - the one we are borrowing is a deluxe family camper with twin drawers etc so I reckon it will be pretty heavy. We are off only for two weeks. Had six weeks in
Cape York last year - fantastic but hard to get six weeks off. Kimberleys are on the 'to do' list.
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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 21:36
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 21:36
A & J,
For what it's worth I've had an O'Brien camper trailer I think it's the family model for about three years it's been great, the rear pull out drawer is so much better than diving in head first try to get stuff out, good for counter balancing when manouvering the trailer on soft ground. You will be happy I'm sure. One mod I've done is to get a rope seal around the outer edge of the canvas joining it to the trailer part, I got rid of the elasticated rope ties they let to much dust in when travelling on gravel. You have to do a bit of a fancy joiner on the two front edges so the canvas still folds down properly without ripping itself.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 21:47
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 21:47
Thanks Martyn - will have a look at what you mean when we pick it up. We might like it so much that we won't give it back. He reckons that they are fantastic and hasn't had any trouble with it. Went to
Cape York with him and others. By the time we had unpacked our car and were banging in tent pegs, he was sitting in the deck chairs drinking coffee.... and the next morning was still cooking breakfast when we were throwing stuff up onto the roof of the car. Not a good thing after six weeks of watching him relaxing!
Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Dave (Pilbara) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 21:44
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 21:44
Garry I have had a 100 TD for almost 40k and its by far the best 4wd I have driven. (Ive owned quite a few) The ride and quietness is top stuff and with little problem with ground clearence. It may only be a problem if you do a lot of extreme rock climbing. I have put a air lock dif in and old man
emu suspension. Do it you will never regret it.
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Reply By: troy - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 22:24
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 22:24
How much are you thinking of selling the 80 series for?
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Follow Up By: Garry - Thursday, Apr 01, 2004 at 00:18
Thursday, Apr 01, 2004 at 00:18
Has Draw factory Made Kit - Mega Bar - Driving Lamps - Factrory Mags -Electric System That allows operation of detachable winch fitted to front or back to allow pulling in both directions (never used) from within the cab - Small removable CB radio CD and tinted windows all round
Has not ever been bent - damaged or done much off road work.
Dealer offering $32K as Trade on new 100TD
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Reply By: Crackles - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 23:07
Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 23:07
Gary. The 2 key faults of the 100 are a weak front diff and clutch shudder.
With the extra weight, the front diff dosen't seem to handle the preasure in low first as well and many self destruct. The fix is to fit an ARB diff lock. It must be a common fault as 4 wheeler mag just run an article on how to bypass the front diff to get home.
If the vehicle is used for towing or hard 4x4 the clutches are renowned for shuddering particulary when when
cold at about the 50,000KM mark. Toyota repair both these faults without question but never give an answer why.
I found my 80 a more capable 4x4 because it was lighter and narrower. A 100 series is the widest truck (common) in the bush so you end up with more scratches
and dints. The 100 handles much better, is alot quieter, has heaps more room and the independant front end doesn't restrict the car much at all.
Go on spoil yourself, Craig.......................
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