Over Filled Battery
Submitted: Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 07:36
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Phil 23
Accidently over filled the first cell in the Overlander battery in the Pajero yesterday.
About 10-12 mm too high, miss took the level marker.
Wondering what the best solution is?
1. Ignore it.
2. Allow the battery to equalise & then suck out the excess & distribute it over the other cells.
Thanks
Reply By: Member - Kiwi_In_Aussie(Wagga) - Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 09:42
Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 09:42
I wouldn't 'suck out the excess...."
"..When your battery was filled originally it was filled with an acid/water solution. The acid doesn't evaporate, but the water in the acid does evaporate, leaving a somewhat more concentrated acid in the cells. (assuming the battery doesn't burp out acid from the overflow tube)
When you fill the cells, you're just adding water (thus the need for pure water) to the acid to get it back to it's intended dilution.
If you overfill the cells, you're diluting the acid slightly. If you remove some electrolyte from the overfilled cells, you're removing some acid. You can't remove just the water once it's mixed with the acid. Theoretically, you could save the electrolyte and use it to refill the cells at some future date, but that's impractical. You could
test the specific gravity of the electrolyte at some future date...."
So based on the above that cell would not have the correct acid/water ratio
I would discuss this more with a professional battery supplier -batteries are expensive and you don't want to get it wrong
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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 09:52
Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 09:52
Put the cap on and don't worry about it , she be right .
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi_In_Aussie(Wagga) - Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:01
Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:01
Jackolux
I assume you are joking with this comment (but I don't see the :-)) so not sure
If you aren't joking then this is a terrible suggestion not only because of the issues I raise above but if he just ..."Put the cap on and don't worry about it...' then he takes the risk of the excess electrolyte coming out of the breather hole in the cap and causing incredible damage to the wiring and\or battery storage area of his car
If this happens he could be talking big $$ to repair
You going to contribute?? - after all he followed your suggestion
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Follow Up By: Phil 23 - Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:11
Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:11
Ok,
Leaving it as is,
Agree, taking any out is removing some original electrolyte.
Might
check the SG's later if it's too far out I might top up the other cells to balance it a bit more.
After all, the levels will always drop again.
Especially after a couple of equalisation charges.
Cheers.
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Reply By: swampfox - Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 13:45
Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 13:45
HI
Never leave a battery overfull .It will spill out of the over flow vent and cause corrosion.Also corrodes terminal . Even a thin film corrodes badly .
Remove with a hydrometer or syringe .
The big question is What were u filling it with ?
U can buy a rubber neck battery filler that fits a coke bottle etc U just stick your thumb over the end to stop flow . The better ones have a breather tube also [provides a constant flow out of the bottle ]
Distilled water off course
swampfox
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Follow Up By: swampfox - Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 13:51
Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 13:51
not knowing your situation, the rubber neck also allows u to rotate the bottle to stop the flow, particularly usefull when batteries are under a truck tray etc . A mirror on a stick and a torch are usefull
also.
swamp fox
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Follow Up By: Phil 23 - Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 15:17
Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 15:17
Was using a rubber battery filler on a beer bottle,
But I mistook the correct fill mark.
Didn't actually need a top up & it's now a cm too high.
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 16:20
Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 16:20
Just use a battery hydrometer and draw out the fluid until it is at the correct level or maybe a millimeter or 2 high. The amount you are going to dilute that cell will be insignificant.
Cheers
Pop
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 17:17
Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 17:17
I'd be drawing the excess off with a syringe or whatever and distributing it evenly among the other cells so all are at an = level then giving the batt a charge with my Ctec charger set on the recon setting ,,, removed from vehicle so less chance of acidic bubbling spill and corrosive vapours…..
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Follow Up By: SDG - Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 18:54
Monday, Mar 30, 2015 at 18:54
Still hear of plenty of people, including battery dealers, who use tap water.
Last battery i had lasted over ten years on tap water.
Been told by the battery people, it depends on the type of tap water in the area. Hard, soft, ph, other chemicals, etc
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Reply By: mike39 - Tuesday, Mar 31, 2015 at 16:27
Tuesday, Mar 31, 2015 at 16:27
If you inadvertently over fill with distilled water (as you did), immediately remove sufficient to regain correct level.
The existing acid solution is of a higher density (SG) so the added water will be initially sitting on top as a strata level.
Of course this will only be until the battery charging is recommenced.
Otherwise I would not be too concerned, modern charging systems closely control against over voltage causing boiling/gassing.
mike
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