Grave at Watson Siding (SA)

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Hi all, have just got back from a jaunt to SA and found an old grave at Watson Siding on the Trans Australia train line. I can't find any information or comments about it on the net so was wondering if anyone here knows the history behind it?

The grave appears very old however the cross is relatively new (probably a decade or so at a rough guess) as the timber it's made from is in pretty good nick although the paint is getting a little ratty and it had fallen over when we found it, so re-fixed it in the small pile of rocks.

Would love to learn the story behind it if anybody knows.



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Reply By: Les - PK Ranger - Saturday, Apr 11, 2015 at 08:35

Saturday, Apr 11, 2015 at 08:35
Very interested to find out, maybe Steven L knows, or he can find out from Robin at Maralinga when talking to him.
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, Apr 11, 2015 at 15:17

Saturday, Apr 11, 2015 at 15:17
I don't know if this would be of any assistance to you or not - link
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Reply By: racinrob - Saturday, Apr 11, 2015 at 15:58

Saturday, Apr 11, 2015 at 15:58
I spent over two years at Watson in the late 50's early 60's hauling crushed rock from the quarry to Maralinga test sites. Saw lots of interesting things (including people getting out of bed early morning on the Transcontinental train) but don't recollect any grave and we did wander around there filling in time.

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Apr 11, 2015 at 19:24

Saturday, Apr 11, 2015 at 19:24
Hi Plasnart

Yes we have beeb there a couple of times and your were luck to find it. From what we were told by Robin, it is very and know one knows who is buried there. I will try another one of my contacts in Ceduna who is the unofficial locl historian.


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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Apr 11, 2015 at 20:37

Saturday, Apr 11, 2015 at 20:37
I can not get hold of Murray, but will keep trying


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Follow Up By: Plasnart - Sunday, Apr 12, 2015 at 15:12

Sunday, Apr 12, 2015 at 15:12
That would be great, thanks Stephen.
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Sunday, Apr 12, 2015 at 08:59

Sunday, Apr 12, 2015 at 08:59
I seem to recall that the grave is that of a young girl, about 8 years old who was the child of a railway worker in the steam era. I researched it when I went to Maralinga last time but can't find where I got that information.

I am not sure where I got that information, I asked Robin and he said something like that sounds about right. But that's Robin :-)

There is another unmarked grave near the top of Googs track at the 325 mile marker near Malbooma.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Sunday, Apr 12, 2015 at 09:09

Sunday, Apr 12, 2015 at 09:09
I forgot to mention that another interesting sight in that area is the monument where the East and West crews met when making the railway. Our 'Golden Spike' if you like.

A very important event in our history, and location.

This is what it now looks like.



Great huh? Surely some government department can spend a small amount of money on it.

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Follow Up By: Plasnart - Sunday, Apr 12, 2015 at 15:16

Sunday, Apr 12, 2015 at 15:16
Hi Boobok. The grave is mid-sized really, so would not be surprised if it were a young person such as the 8yo you mention. Grave is too big for an infant and may not big enough for an adult although couldn't be 100% on that.
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Follow Up By: Plasnart - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 18:27

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 18:27
Hey Boobook, see reply no. 8 below. Are you able to provide any further details of the grave on Goog's Track?
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Reply By: Ron N - Sunday, Apr 12, 2015 at 22:58

Sunday, Apr 12, 2015 at 22:58
Plasnart - Contact the Outback Areas Community Development Trust on 08 8648 5970, or email them at oacdt.outbacksa@saugov.sa.gov.au, for info on outback graves.

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Follow Up By: Plasnart - Monday, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:36

Monday, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:36
Thanks Ron, I'll drop them a line. I'll post up any useful feedback. Cheers!
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Follow Up By: Plasnart - Monday, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:47

Monday, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:47
OK have checked the Outback Burial Register on the Outback Communities Authority website and no listing for this grave. I'll send them an email and see what I get in response.
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Reply By: Plasnart - Monday, Apr 13, 2015 at 18:00

Monday, Apr 13, 2015 at 18:00
OK, I have made contact with a Graham Journay who is an ancestral and local history researcher in Adelaide. He is also unaware of this grave however has said he will see what he can find out in late May upon his return from Europe. Interestingly, all grave details shown on the Outback Communities Authority website were also provided by him (of which there are many), so he obviously knows his stuff.

Find it here:http://www.oca.sa.gov.au/?q=burialregister

Graham has also provided this advice (as received):

The following are known to have died in Watson SA

Geo F SMITH 1930 age 43
Maolis MANU 1938 age 38
Pando A BASOTOFF 1938 age 32
Rudolph B GEUE 1939 age 45
GlEnn K HOSKING 1961 age 6m
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Reply By: Plasnart - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 18:25

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 18:25
This is getting interesting. Graham has read this thread and provides further comment below.

He emails:

When I checked my database later I did discover that I have a record of the grave submitted 8 Feb 2004 but unhelpful!


Watson

UNKNOWN: white cross not transcribed - 100m S of railway at east end points


All the deaths at Watson occurred during the steam era simple because there was a railways work camp there at the time. When diesels were introduced the need for places like Watson lessened.


Graves by railway lines in SA were cared for by the gangers. Unmarked graves usually gained a white cross as part of the care. Whether this tradition persists since privatisation I do not know but suspect not since you had to tidy it up!


If the grave is of a girl aged about 8 then it is also an unregistered death unless she died elsewhere and was brought to Watson for burial. I’ll widen my search.


Ignore the comment about the size of the grave - experience suggests no correlation between grave size and body size. The comment that grave was not there in 1950s - 60s is interesting. Personally I would have expected it to be there before then given modern transport and the like.


Thanks for the GPS - makes location so much easier!


I was interested in the Googs Track grave mention although very sketchy. I do not have that one on file!
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