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has anyone had experience with those Boab or similar slim line water containers or the floor well bladders or anything else that might serve the purpose in bulk water storage ,eg, 60 - 80 litres .have prado with forward placed cargo barrier, fridge and drawer set up. we tent camp and need to be very strict with space. we carry several 3 litre plastic ex juice bottles too, but find the 20 litre containers take up too much room and are bulky and heavy .

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Reply By: Bigfish - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 13:12

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 13:12
I reckon you have the answer already...more 3 litre containers. If 1 breaks..big deal, you only lose 3 litres. Cost is negligible as you can use empty juice bottles. You can store them in all sorts of nooks and crannies in the car.
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Follow Up By: Member - pandora - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 16:23

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 16:23
thanks bigfish. the juice containers are the way to go for all the reasons you say, as well , not heavy, so easy to refill, not to mention inexpensive.
but we are thinking of carrying a larger bulk container as well for desert and remote trips as back up.
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Reply By: Member - John - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 13:15

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 13:15
Pandora, I have a 50lt slim line tank behind the rear seats in my Patrol. I have checked the BOAB site and find that the tank is now only 42 litres capacity. Checking fleabay, there is an interesting 60lt square flexible tank that sits in the footwell, but only on one side. I think the hard plastic ones are more durable and robust, but the flexible one may suit you better. Good luck....................
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Follow Up By: Member - pandora - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 16:32

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 16:32
yes John, agree, the 42 litres is a downside,
will check out the 60 litre flexy you mention,
thanks for the info
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 13:59

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 13:59
There was some discussion about this within the past few weeks, Pandora?

Not much help to you, with a Prado, but I've just fitted an 80L slim tank underneath the tray on our Landcruiser ute. Did 1600 kms over Easter, with over 400 clicks on gravel roads, and no splits, or leakage.

Son in law has a 100L bladder behind the rear seat in their Hilux dual cab. Has done quite a few k's with no dramas.

As well as Boab, check out PolyRV, made by Enmach Industries. They have a good range, though most would be suitable to commercial type vehicles. Whitworths Marine have a couple of tanks, Plastimo flexible tanks(50-200L) and Diablo poly tanks(60 & 108L) Might be worth a look on their website. They used to sell 5L water containers too, but don't see them in the catalogue now.

Have seen smaller jerrycans at Rays, BCF & Supercheap. Just have to watch the quality, as some are a bit light, and wouldn't last long with driving and camping duties.

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Follow Up By: Member - pandora - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 16:45

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 16:45
Thanks for all the alternatives Bob,
will look into all your suggestions, obviously have missed the discussion in previous wks but will catch up there too. was a bit unsure about the durability of the bladders, but the feedback is good there.
really appreciate that everyone is providing so much information.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:11

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:11
No worries, Pandora.

Think the thread I mentioned was more about drinking water, but might give you some ideas. Thread: 117457

Always good information here on EO 'cause we're such nice people, Pandora. :-)

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Follow Up By: Member - pandora - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:45

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:45
thanks again Bob, have to agree that we are all nice people, and modest too.
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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 14:07

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 14:07
Hi Pandora,

The volume of water carried should really be determined by your needs rather than how much space can be allocated. 60 litres is 0.06 cubic metres regardless of whether it is in one tank or twenty 3-litre containers, although granted, it may be easier to find spaces for multiple small containers. We travel remotely and carry 120 litres in three Boab 40L tanks installed behind the front seats.

As you have fitted drawers these 42 litreBoab Wheel-arch Tanks may suit your needs. At only 75mm thick they fit between the drawers and the body, just behind the wheel arches. Run a hose from each tank to the rear door.
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Follow Up By: Member - pandora - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:36

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:36
thanks Allan, yes, been thinking along those lines, its good to hear that it works well
I was also wondering if the floor well storage is a good option, since the bladders are not as expensive , but on the downside may not be as easy to access, refill and pour.
Its a pity I can only see these products on line, I would prefer to look them over on a shop floor, but when I gather all the advice and info everyone has helped me with I am sure I will be able to make a good choice.
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Reply By: K&FT - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 14:30

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 14:30
G'day Pandora

We have a 100 litre bladder that sits behind the front seats in our Navara. It is made in Victoria by Fleximake.

They are on sale on Ebay for around $149 including freight. We have had no issues with this unit over a couple of years.

They are made of food grade material and impart no taste to the water.

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Follow Up By: Crusier 91 - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 14:39

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 14:39
We have the same though it only cost $100 delivered a few years ago. We even purchased a custom made 40L afterwards.
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Follow Up By: Member - pandora - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:02

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:02
hi K&FT. thanks for that good feedback. I will follow up , the floor bladder option looks the cheapest and by all accounts is robust enough, but the Boab slim line seem to tick a lot of boxes, except for price, and probably weight too.
I had some concerns about leakage at the seams and tap fittings with bladders but it seems like there are no reported issues here.
I do have another question if you would be kind enough to reply again??
we will have heaps of stuff thrown on top of the bladder(soft gear). but wondering how accessible the hoses are for pouring and refills. looking at the pictures on line it seems you would have to move a lot of stuff to get to them. any problems here?
Also is there a need to have the vehicle on a bit of a slope to get the water out when the bladder is getting low on water
thanks again pandora
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Follow Up By: K&FT - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 19:00

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 19:00
Hello again, no worries. If you have a look at the photos in this link you will see where the hoses are. I don't use the top one except to allow air out of the bladder when filling it. This ensures it is full. When the bladder is near empty and almost flat on the floor you can roll it up from the other end or just lift it to get all the water out. I have a connection on my caravan that allows me to connect the bladder to the suction inlet on the on board pump so the water gets sucked out of it.
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It is certainly robust enough to have things like an atlas or the camps book sitting on top with no issues. They really are a very strong material. If you are at all concerned you could fold a travel rug and throw over the top of it for protection.

The only issue we have ever experienced is the "glug glug" when it is not full and we are travelling. Tends make you want to go to the Loo.
Hope that helps. We are very happy with the one we have from Fleximake and I am considering buying another to give us a good amount of water storage. It is after all only the weight of another robust passenger.

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Follow Up By: K&FT - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 20:41

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 20:41
My Apologies, the 100 litre version is now $169 incl freight.

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Follow Up By: Member - pandora - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 22:59

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 22:59
thanks so much Frank, you have cleared up all the issues for me.
the flexitank option is looking pretty good from all the advice ,
I wasn't thinking we would need 100 litres but of course no need to fill it to max when not necessary, with all the gear I stack on top of it I doubt there would be a lot of glug glugging, but will heed your warning about the other waterworks.
I will check out the link and the go from there.

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Reply By: Rangiephil - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 15:24

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 15:24
Here is one you can fit and take up no space inside.
http://www.thelongranger.com.au/pradolongrangefueltank.html

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Follow Up By: Member - pandora - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 22:26

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 22:26
thanks Phillip.
this seems it would certainly fit the bill, I have a 150 series , I will investigate if they make one to fit my vehicle .
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Reply By: Tim F3 - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:06

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:06
Floatpac in melbourne manufactre water bladders that fit in the wasted space , eg between the outer metal skin and the inner plastic trim on the left hand rear quarter panel of a patrol,it holds approx 20 litres,perhaps enquire with them for your vehice,they have a wide variety.
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Follow Up By: Member - pandora - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 22:34

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 22:34
thanks Tim, im not sure if this would work with the height of the drawers and frig set up , but I will go to the website anyhow and see if it would be a possible solution, or any other product that might suit.
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Reply By: Michaeljp - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 19:56

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 19:56
That Boab foot well tank looks ok, you could then put a water bladder ontop of it. I have a 50L Flexitank bladder that ive had for over 20 years without any trouble. I put it behind the front seats on the floor.
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Follow Up By: Member - pandora - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 22:42

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 22:42
great idea Michael. The flexitank certainly is robust and after having one for so many years it speaks for itself.
thanks for your feedback
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