Jerry can use with unleaded or diesel fuel?

Submitted: Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:28
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Hi,

Does anyone know if its okay to use plastic jerry cans with either diesel or unleaded (2-stroke) at different times?

We are soon to head off on few month trip and I can see at different points it would be handy to be able to carry some extra diesel when we don't need the 2-stroke fuel for the outboard. I was thinking if we drain all the fuel as best we can and leave the lids off for a bit to evaporate a bit more it should be okay but I have no idea really and the last thing I want to do is impact our motors. We have not got the space or weight capacity to carry more jerry cans unfortunately.
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Reply By: TomH - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:41

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:41
I have both the red plastic ones and the steel ones. I have use both lots for diesel and petrol. Just make sure all the petrol is out and they are dry before putting diesel in the plastic ones.
Same with the steel ones but I generally only put diesel in them.
Carried two red ones right around the country with diesel in them with no troubles.
Is a bit harder to get the diesel residue out I usually just swirl a bit of petrol in it and drain it out.

It is not very wise and in fact illegal to carry petrol in any passenger area of a vehicle.
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Reply By: Member - Bigred13 - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:56

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:56
Hi Sam,I believe that red plastic ones are branded for petrol and yellow ones are for diesel,and yellow are not to be used for petrol FWIW.
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Follow Up By: Sam39 - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:06

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:06
I have the red ones which might be a bit of luck rather than good management.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:01

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:01
A small amount of petrol, say 50 mL or so won't do any damage in the diesel, as long as you fill the jerrycans with 20 L of diesel.

When refilling with 2-stroke, just do as Tom suggested, and swill a litre or two of petrol around to reduce amount of diesel left in the container.

The better quality jerrycans, such as Rheem, are almost indestructible, and if you need new ones they're worth buying. Supercheap sell Protecta(???) jerrycans which are colour coded for type of fuel you plan to carry. Don't know how robust they are?

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Follow Up By: Sam39 - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:08

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:08
Thanks all, my plastic jerry cans are 10 litre not 20 litre as they sit better on the roof rack. Does that matter?
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:42

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:42
Seeing they are 10L, just remove all liquid petrol, Sam, and you'll be right.

The 10L will be better on your back too, lifting them onto/off the rack.

How many jerrycans do you carry? If you use 6, you could keep one with 2-stroke, and you would still have 50L for diesel.

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Reply By: Member - John - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:10

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:10
Sam, no need to worry about evaporating the 2 stroke, even if a litre or two left, the diesel will dilute it to a safe level, presuming it is a 20lt jerry! I had both my fuel tanks filled with opal instead of diesel, drained the main tank and refilled with diesel, left the sub tank full of opal, over the next few days transferred the opal to the main tank a few litres at a time, no problems at all........... in fact unleaded can be injected into diesels the same as LPG to increase the power and efficiency. The bloke that filled the tanks at the community was his first and probably last day on the pumps.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:32

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:32
Dont do that if you have a common rail diesel Will stuff the pump etc Mega $$$$
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 08:02

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 08:02
Yeah, CRDs rely on recirculating fuel for lubrication.
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Follow Up By: Sam39 - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 09:20

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 09:20
I have Ford Ranger PX 2014 Diesel so this is a common rail diesel as i understand it
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:52

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:52
For sure if you leave litres and litres of petrol in a jerry and then fill with diesel there may be issues but if you simply drain the petrol out so only a minimal amount remains and then fill the jerrys then all will be OK CRD or not.

I would be more worried about the dirt in the bottom of the jerry rather than the diesel petrol mix.

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Reply By: Member - John - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:14

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:14
Sam, using 10lt jerries, just means be a little bit more careful with how much 2 stroke is left in the jerry. The colour coding of the plastic jerry cans is to help prevent mishaps with refuelling, no difference in plastic used.
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Follow Up By: Sam39 - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:48

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:48
Thanks, I will take care.
Its just good to know its okay to do it.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 21:45

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 21:45
Exactly right John! The colour is just to code them for fuel type identification, The plastic ones are all High Density Polyethlylene (HDPE). Michael
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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 17:02

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 17:02
Just to clear one point up....the colour code may be helpful to remind you what to put in them when filling up, but it's number one purpose is actually so that any emergency services know what type of fuel they're dealing with in the event of a prang or spill.

The plastic itself is the same. The volatility of the fluid inside them is the difference. The flash point of ULP vs. diesel is VERY different.

Just consider the fact that an emergency worker attending the scene may be caught short particularly if there is ULP in a yellow container. Not something I'd want to be responsible for.

Sorry to rain on your parade.

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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 17:05

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 17:05
Helps to read all the post before making a comment.
Sorry for the double up. Looks like the post below has it covered.

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Reply By: Crusier 91 - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:31

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:31
I think the main concern with using different fuels in different coloured jerrys is for emergency services.
For example if your vehicle is in a accident, emergency services such as the fire brigade or SES can identify fuel hazards and tackle the job accordingly.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:55

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:55
Its actually standard UN [united nations] colour coding for hazardous [liquid] materials , yellow = diesel , red = petrol , green = 2 stroke petrol , blue = water , ,,,, problem being Australia has no enforceable system for compliance...
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 13:26

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 13:26
Yes, Alloy, as you might note at servos across this country. There is no standard colour scheme for bowser nozzles. Diesel could be black at one place, yellow at another, green somewhere else, etc

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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 13:29

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 13:29
Indeed. On auto-pilot once I grabbed the green handled pump and filled the motorbike tank. It was bleeding diesel with no warning tab to depress before freeing it from the bowser.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 18:20

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 18:20
Don't know if they'd be useful in the OP's situation, but there are fuel/water container tags available, in the UN colours, to suit the fluid contained therein. Colours as per Alloy's contribution above.

After a demand by the lady of the house, I was ordered to get a set so she knew which fuel went in "her lawnmower" :-). Got ours at Supercheap.

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 22:35

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 22:35
Gday Bob,
Mothers Day is coming up - might be a great time to get your wife a new lawnmower, whippersnipper, hedgetrimmer or the jerry can she's always wanted :-) Do the jerry cans come in pink?
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Tuesday, Apr 21, 2015 at 16:55

Tuesday, Apr 21, 2015 at 16:55
Ha ha, had nearly forgotten about Mothers' Day, Phil,

Have been researching a Honda powered leaf blower recently, Aussie made, I believe. It also comes with an optional nozzle extension, that allows one to blow out the leaves in one's guttering.

May get her one of these, nicely wrapped with a pink ribbon. Will save her having to climb onto the roof, to clean the guttering. :-)

Had a trip down the River to Davenport today. The red hills still hold their charisma, but the rest of the trip is pretty dismal........dry as!

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Reply By: Sam39 - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:30

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:30
The approach I was thinking from what I have read and hopefully understand is:
- I will have 2 10 litre jerry cans for general use (does not include boat fuel tank). May get another along the way depending on weight and storage.
- I am thinking of using this method as a safety buffer at times to give me another 25% fuel capacity as I only have an 80 litre main fuel tank. We are just going to have to pay the big dollars per litre as the opportunity presents to fill up due to our limited fuel range.
- The jerry cans will always be empty when used alternatively to keep it simple as i should be able to put any remaining fuel in the boat or vehicle tanks before re-filling
- I can use a very small amount (25ml) of premium unleaded petrol (used in boat) to break down any diesel residue and put in the vehicle fuel tank should be minimal and maybe easier to not do this as any remaining diesel will have been emptied into the vehicle fuel tank
- If the jerry can has had 2-stroke in I will give it a quick rinse of unleaded and put in the boat fuel tank if the opportunity presents otherwise this hopefully won't be necessary
- I will definitely keep a log of what is in the current jerry cans so I don't confuse myself as this would be a dangerous prospect
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Follow Up By: Rick (S.A.) - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:20

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:20
I asked the manufacturer - http://www.scepter.com/ - about colour & fuel type - the response was any colour is OK for any fuel.

I am currently using red jerries for diesel. It's not an issue as, in texta, I have clearly identified the fuel type.

Perhaps you could do the same as you use differing jerries for differing fuels.

If you swap fuels, cross out the former ID, and write on the container the new fuel type.

Saves a log.

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Follow Up By: Sam39 - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:47

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:47
Thanks, I use the Scepter red ones currently.
I like the idea of marking the jerry can as it won't be that often I will be doing it hopefully.
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