Servicing costs

Hi guys, just started researching my next vehicle and I have narrowed down it down to the diesel 3.2 did Pajero or the 4l v6 Prado 120 series.
I much prefer the Paj to drive but am somewhat concerned about servicing costs as the tappets are supposed to be done every 30000ks at a cost of around $800 is this right?
How much has it cost you to get your tappets done Ns or NT models ?
I know the EGr needs to be blocked but I don't see that as a biggie, but at $800 every 30000ks I reckon I would be better off with the petrol Prado.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Member Andys Adventures - Thursday, May 07, 2015 at 15:49

Thursday, May 07, 2015 at 15:49
It's $760 but if new it's included in the cap price service.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Thursday, May 07, 2015 at 20:21

Thursday, May 07, 2015 at 20:21
Including a wheel alignment my Paj 30k service at the local Mitsubishi dealer was $645 a couple of months ago.
"Check and or adjust Valve clearances" was on the job sheet.
On my previous 2007 Paj which I put 300 000km on I thought the interval was longer, but yes on the NW (don't know about the newer NX) it's every 30k.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Thursday, May 07, 2015 at 20:23

Thursday, May 07, 2015 at 20:23
PS I don't know why you block the EGR but I see it's regularly mentioned on the Pajero forum. Need to block it?.. No.
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Thursday, May 07, 2015 at 21:49

Thursday, May 07, 2015 at 21:49
Mark it seems the NS model in particular has a habit of blocking the inlet manifold with carbon, by directing exhaust gases back into the combustion chamber to control nox emissions.
Did you get a good run out of your previous NS?
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Friday, May 08, 2015 at 05:43

Friday, May 08, 2015 at 05:43
Obviously your not too familiar with Pajeros Mark. Anyone who knows anything about the Pajero and the Prado will have the EGR valve modded. Unless of course your happy to pay $1000 every couple of years to have the inlet manifold cleaned out. First thing I did on my new NW was install a $100 plug in/plug out EGR mod. Simple and now my EGR valve reads 0% ALL the time. Less turbo lag, slight fuel improvement, absolutely no effect on engine reliability and will prevent a costly clean further down the road.

I had to choose between the Prado, LC200 and the Pajero. I went with the Pajero after months of searching reviews, forums and asking around. Had the car 4 months and I know I made the right decision.

You do not have to have the servicing done at Mitsubishi!!! If you know a good mechanic who can perform the maintenance at the right price and stamp the book then all is well. The prices are capped for several years.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Friday, May 08, 2015 at 07:04

Friday, May 08, 2015 at 07:04
Bigfish and Madfisher
300 000km in 7 years, no problems with being inlet manifold being blocked by carbon, no other problems, confidence to on sell the vehicle to my father, guess you call that a good run.
Servicing done by dealer as I don't know of any other reliable modern turbo diesel 4WD mechanic around here. There are obviously those familiar with farm and mining diesel machinery around here, but I don't know of any for smaller vehicles.
Need to block it, I still say No, though I'm not arguing with your claim there are performance gains if you do block it.
No problems in 40k with the new one yet
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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Friday, May 08, 2015 at 07:49

Friday, May 08, 2015 at 07:49
Mark...Jump onto the Pajero forum of Victoria. There are dozens of people who have had major dramas with the inlet manifold clogging up. Quite a few threads.

Your choice. Me...I like prevention better than cure.
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Follow Up By: dazza62 - Friday, May 08, 2015 at 10:16

Friday, May 08, 2015 at 10:16
If it is on the internet, it must be true.

Can only speak from personal experience - 07 NS 3.2 DID Auto, 180,000 kms serviced by VACC Mechanic every 7500 km. Have not altered the EGR valve and on the odd occasion the DPF light comes on a quick trip at around 100 km/h clears the problem. Was advised no need to adjust tappets every 30,000 and therefore haven't done so.

Only major work done since new was to replace a transmission sensor after 150,000 km.

Very happy with my Pajero and it's on & off road ability. Only negative is 2500 kg towing capacity.

I guess I must be just lucky!!!
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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Friday, May 08, 2015 at 16:26

Friday, May 08, 2015 at 16:26
new pajero is 3500kg tow capacity. Yes Dazza..you must have been lucky. But anyway as you said the Pajero is a very reliable and capable 4 wd vehicle.
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Follow Up By: dazza62 - Saturday, May 09, 2015 at 08:41

Saturday, May 09, 2015 at 08:41
Would check the towing capacity - Mitsubishi website lists the Pajero as having a 3000 kg towing capacity.
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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Saturday, May 09, 2015 at 09:43

Saturday, May 09, 2015 at 09:43
Sorry Daz...your right. In my opinion all these mid size suv,s and twin cabs are far over rated for their towing capabilities. I reckon 2 tonne would be a safer handling weight. However people want to pull mobile houses now on the cheapest vehicle they ca. If only Nissan and Toyota had of further developed their 6 cylinder turbos....
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Reply By: Sir Kev - Friday, May 08, 2015 at 16:46

Friday, May 08, 2015 at 16:46
You could buy Darkie, Pete :)

I am sure you have some fond memories of where we took it that weekend at the Pyrenees.


Cheers Kev

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Follow Up By: madfisher - Friday, May 08, 2015 at 18:06

Friday, May 08, 2015 at 18:06
That was a great weekend Kev, that truck is more beast then I need. My next 4by will be mainly a boat tower, with the occasional mild off roading to fishing spots. The Paj drives like a sedan on steroids and I am at a stage of life where I value comfort. Trust the family are well?
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: swampfox - Saturday, May 09, 2015 at 07:13

Saturday, May 09, 2015 at 07:13
Hi
RE servicing at dealer
99% chase your money
Can we upsell u on stuff u don't need
The best mechanic is never on servicing duties
[If mechanics can only get thru there thick heads that a customer requires a detailed report on the WHOLE vehicle not just whats on the service list .]
Mechanics in dealers make a bonus if u finish under time .
Every job is timed to the minute .
Most service schedules are the bare minium requirement .
Rotate ,balance ,wheel alignment ,clean remove battery terminals ,lube door hinges .
Most of the time these items are never done or not even listed in the service schedule
Most of the time loose bolts, tail shaft centre cv splines are not checked ,front end is never checked thoroughly or properly .
Pressure testing of cooling system is almost never done at service .

swampfox
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Follow Up By: Rick (S.A.) - Saturday, May 09, 2015 at 12:27

Saturday, May 09, 2015 at 12:27
re dealer servicing:

Experience has demonstrated what you say is often true. Understood about every job allocated a time, checks not done, etc.

When challenged for work done but maybe not necessary or requested - we are concerned about your safety, sir! Emotional influence over mechanical requisites ??? - Hardly an experience I'd call service. Couldn't even call most of these dealer visits preventive maintenance.

Of course there are always exceptions to the rule. Trouble is , I have never had that encounter!

All smells pretty nasty to me - charging for work they say has been completed but in reality not done - would they stand an ombudsman's scrutiny?

.............Which is why I visit a specialist privateer for my 4wd servicing.

Cheers
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Saturday, May 09, 2015 at 17:35

Saturday, May 09, 2015 at 17:35
Can't afford the servicing costs means "can't afford the vehicle" …. its like buying a Rolls Royce and not being able to drive it because it costs squillions to fuel and service it ..
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 16:23

Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 16:23
You miss the point, If you had to spend $800 every 30000ks to service the tappets then the petrol Prado v6 may well be a better option. Anyhow I have been reassured that and audio inspection is only necessary every 30000.
cheers Pete
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Reply By: swampfox - Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 17:42

Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 17:42
Hi
More than ever u have to keep and idea on running costs. Further breakdown would be
regular= servicing costs
regular occasional maintenance -- brakes etc
typical repairs
water pump
clutch
drive shaft
electronic shockers

major repairs
overheating =cylinder head overhaul etc
EG v6 3.5 ltr 24 valve
gskts ,o/haul both heads , hoses , w/pump, thermostat, radiator clean out
$2,500 in parts [1999 ] plus labour

swampfox
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