Cheap 240W, 42

Submitted: Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 19:43
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I just ordered one of these;LED LIGHTBAR

It seems incredible as far as price is concerned and perhaps I will be disappointed when it arrives.....but I'm willing to take the chance. They also have a curved one for under $20-.

I already have a pair of Fyrlyt 150 watt lights, but I find that even on their spread setting, they don't throw enough light out to the sides of the road to allow me to quickly spot roos etc.

When I had the Landcruiser, I had a 32" bar on the roof rack and that combination (ie: with the Fyrlyts) was brilliant (pardon the pun).

Now that I have the Silverado I've been wondering what to do about the LED bar....and now I know.

I have no affiliation with this Chinese seller....and I will post back here once it arrives to let you all know whether I've been sold a pup....

Roachie
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Reply By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 20:27

Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 20:27
Interesting find Bill. How do you plan to mount the light?
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Follow Up By: Roachie.kadina.sa.au - Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 22:45

Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 22:45
G'day Peter, The Chev has a canopy with 4x roof bars (for solar panels and awning)....I will mount it across the front of the canopy. Illegal (of course)....but there are plenty of other rigs getting around with such set-ups.
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Follow Up By: Member - mike g2 - Monday, Jun 01, 2015 at 12:21

Monday, Jun 01, 2015 at 12:21
Hi roachie, pete..hope the cheap lite works out. I noted the "illegal" point, after the recent fines for numberplate issue, I assume there's a rule to say where is legal to mount them? your right in that you see lights all over the place on 4x4's. also variation in rules for WA vs eastern states?.
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Follow Up By: Member - johnat - Sunday, Jun 07, 2015 at 18:03

Sunday, Jun 07, 2015 at 18:03
WRT the location of the mount, the RTA in ACT has the following ...

"Until such time as ADR13 is amended, several State and Territory Registration Authorities have stated they will accept the use of LED Light Bars fitted to vehicles if not fitted in pairs; however the Light Bars are required to be fitted at the front of the vehicle ( see Fig 3 below)."

The diagram is not copyable to here, but is at http://www.rego.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/621133/70,055-Headlights-and-Lamps-Info-Sheet.pdf

Because the ADR13 is a national document, the requirement will be similar for all states.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 23:05

Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 23:05
Screen dump of diagram from above RTA document:

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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 00:14

Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 00:14
Roachie, let us know if it arrives or not ....... I'm putting money on the latter....
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 07, 2015 at 16:03

Sunday, Jun 07, 2015 at 16:03
* cough * cough *
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Reply By: Member - Peter&Lynore - Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 03:36

Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 03:36
Hi yes please keep us in the know how it goes as want one for the Nissan ,
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Reply By: Fab72 - Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 10:03

Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 10:03
Roachie,
I recently bought a 36.9" (900mm)LED light bar from an Aussie seller but of obvious Chinese origins. 180 W single row LED's using 10W crees.

It arrived in a few days and works a treat. I was always a bit sceptical about light penetration. No more! I've got it mounted on my roof rack and have a couple of 240 HID converted Blitz on the nudge bar. The combination is brilliant (pun intended).

You'll be impressed! Even the spread to the sides is really good.

The only thing time will tell is how water proof it is. So far so good with the ordinary weather we're having here in Adelaide at the moment.

Light bar link - Aussie seller

Enjoy it....especially along that tree lined area from Kadina to Pasky and again just before Kulpara.

Fab.

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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 10:06

Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 10:06
Word of advice that was given to me.... watch those long light bars that only have brackets on the ends.
You'll notice the one I bought has a 3 bracket system that allows for the brackets to be set anywhere.
I do, however, do a lot of corrugated driving.

Fab.
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Follow Up By: Roachie.kadina.sa.au - Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 10:44

Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 10:44
Thanks Fab.....that was one of my concerns too. Those end brackets look to be plastic and I reckon I'll be substituting steel right-angle brackets in their place. I would have preferred the ones with the variable mounts along the back side, but for this price (assuming it arrives!!!) I'll be happy to experiment....
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 23:12

Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 23:12
Have a look at the mounting system for this one on ebay. I am not recommending this model just another example of mounting arrangements. Check out the diagrams.

Phil

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Reply By: Rob 49 - Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 14:20

Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 14:20
Hi,
I have a 42 inch light bar on my rig. It has 4 anchor points for the light bar. Yours seems to have mounting points for the ends only and if this is the case it will most likely be the weak link once your get into the rough stuff. The price is very good.
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Follow Up By: Roachie.kadina.sa.au - Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 17:56

Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 17:56
Thanks Rob....I plan to ditch the plastic end brackets and fab-up some steel jobbies. The only potential problem then will be whether the ends of the actual light bar are strong enough (ie: the female threaded holes).
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Reply By: Bigfish - Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 18:16

Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 18:16
Think your going to be disappointed. Shipping alone costs more than $20.00...
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Reply By: The Original JohnR (Vic) - Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 22:00

Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 22:00
Hi Roachie, I have a 120w 40" or 1m one on the top of the bullbar and it will show from fence to fence on some of the two chain roads with the white light they yield. They are nice, but with any moisture in the air, very reflective. I want a couple of penetration lights though as the light is glares back at you from quite a short distance off. I think the penetration lights won't be quite as white either.

I think the curved ones would be good for cross country work or around the farm. Road work, I have my doubts.
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Monday, Jun 01, 2015 at 19:56

Monday, Jun 01, 2015 at 19:56
My concern would be the seller has only had 64 sales and has a rating of 98%. The only way to make this so cheap is the use of cheap LED's and if were going to the trouble of fitting one I'd like a good one. However it's not a lot of money to throw away so taking the punt isn't big.
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 02, 2015 at 08:59

Tuesday, Jun 02, 2015 at 08:59
I rarely buy things like this off Ebay - too good to be true etc but I had been thinking of a light bar for the truck. $20 what the heck, ordered one the day Roachie posted. Yesterday got an email from seller saying item had been shipped. We wait to see if I wasted my money. Thanks Roachie - bit like a lottery.
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Follow Up By: Roachie.kadina.sa.au - Tuesday, Jun 02, 2015 at 17:42

Tuesday, Jun 02, 2015 at 17:42
Yes mate....my thoughts too. In any case, we have the protection of Paypal's refund policy.

I did look at the seller's profile.....they must have been selling LOTS of stuff in very recent days/weeks. When you look at the light bars (just as an example), they say they've sold hundreds.....so either nobody is leaving them feedback or (more likely) those hundreds of sales are to blokes like you and me; just in the past few days.

The buyers of all these items are therefore still awaiting arrival of their item/s.

It is conceivable that they are shonky......put up lots of stuff for sale (that they don't have and have no intention of supplying) in the hope they'll sell hundreds at a very cheap price and then before the muck hits the fan, they shut down their paypal account etc.

They would then have all the money from clowns like me and disappear without a trace....leaving hundreds of us to fight it out with Paypal. There would be a certain number of said buyers who wouldn't even bother raising a dispute with paypal because of the small amount involved.

Anyway, maybe I'm reading too much into it....it could possibly all work out okay. Time will tell.
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Follow Up By: Roachie.kadina.sa.au - Tuesday, Jun 02, 2015 at 17:49

Tuesday, Jun 02, 2015 at 17:49
Just ran down the list of stuff for sale on their ebay store and counted 1,061 items SOLD.
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Follow Up By: Roachie.kadina.sa.au - Wednesday, Jun 03, 2015 at 05:54

Wednesday, Jun 03, 2015 at 05:54
Looks like it might have been too good to be true after all. Just got an email from ebay advising that the listing is no longer available. They wished me luck in getting the item I bought but said i should open a dispute if the item doesn't arrive.

The seller is no longer a registered ebay seller.

Looks a bit grim, but my money will be refunded....nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Follow Up By: Mick O - Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 20:19

Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 20:19
Now the bad news Roachie....eBay won't touch you because they consider it in the "vehicle" category. Of course this doesn't make sense as it's a vehicle accessory and they actually have a category for those items.

Try and open a claim at the eBay resolution center lol. I think you'll be disappointed by eBay's lack of customer service.

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Follow Up By: Roachie.kadina.sa.au - Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 21:40

Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 21:40
Mick,

I'm still hopeful that the bar will eventually turn up, but I lodged a claim with Paypal anyway......and I've already received a full refund.

So, I'm happy enough with that outcome. IF....BIG "if" it does turn up then I will have to decide whether to try and re-pay for it. Don't think it's going to be a problem hey!!! hahaha

Roachie
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 03, 2015 at 06:21

Wednesday, Jun 03, 2015 at 06:21
Roachie,
yes I got the same email. Oh well it aint going to take the food off the table !!

I will leave it for a while and see if a miracle arrival occurs and then go after a refund if I can be bothered.

Will probably buy one of the cree bars from Elintz when I get the next stage of my truck build done.

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Reply By: Rosiebear - Saturday, Jun 06, 2015 at 11:39

Saturday, Jun 06, 2015 at 11:39
Same scam was run a few months ago too don't know if it was the same sellers, same scenario, paypal refunded no probs...
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Follow Up By: cruza25 - Sunday, Jun 07, 2015 at 11:43

Sunday, Jun 07, 2015 at 11:43
A nice little earner if he sold 1000 items at $20 each
PayPal will be putting their fees up to cover these scams no doubt, then we all pay a bit extra .
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Sunday, Jun 07, 2015 at 18:22

Sunday, Jun 07, 2015 at 18:22
The non-arrival of your purchase might be a blessing in disguise, Roachie.

Company I work for fitted Rigid Industries 42" light bars to their prime movers about 4 years ago. These would have been the "Rolls Royce" of light bars back then, and were about $1200 each. The light output was far better than the Hella 4000's with halogen globes, but once they'd done many trips to Darwin the problems became apparent. Leaking moisture behind the outer clear cover, then groups of LEDs ceasing to function. Heard 3rd hand that the bars were flexing in the middle and were cracking the PCB's. They have since fitted Great Whites and Peak Explorers, in a round format.

Have had a 22" light bar on my Landcruiser for about 5 years, and while the light is a bit less than ideal, it has worked perfectly.

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Reply By: fisho64 - Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 21:11

Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 21:11
I have had a $75 Ebay lightbar on my boat facing forwards for about 18 months with no problems yet
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