All-terrain 'P' tyres

Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 17:31
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I'm about to buy a new set of A/T tyres for my LR Discovery and would like some feedback on Passenger A/T versus Light Truck A/T tyres. All I really do with my Disco is beach work, a little gravel tracks and some limestone roads (drive a tad slower on them), but not rocky areas at all.

I want a 245/70 R16 tyre (largest I can get in my Disco without needing body mods or a huge-@ss lift kit) but no one makes a light truck tyre in that size. I'm keen on the Bridgestone D694 Dueler, as there's been absolutely amazing reviews on them in USA (the A/T Revo) for the past few years and now are a tried and proven tyre over there.

Given that I'm not doing rock driving, will a 'passenger' construction tyre be okay? The D694's apparently have a new reinforced sidewall feature, but are still not up to LT status.

The other option for me is the reinforced D693 Duelers, except they apparently don't have the great traction and other features like noise that the new D694's have.

any comments?
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Reply By: The Banjo - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 18:10

Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 18:10
Hell....Im no expert but is the BFG AT 245/70 R 16 (load rating D) - 3 poly side plys and 3 poly plus 2 steel plys on the tread not (gasp) a light truck tyre ?
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Follow Up By: NathanK - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 18:41

Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 18:41
BFG A/T's are an exception to the usual. i'd get them, but they're over $50 a tyre more and that's a fair whack, when i'm trying to get new springs and shockies at the same time...
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Follow Up By: NathanK - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 18:52

Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 18:52
actually, just rang local tyrepower.

BFG A/T's are Light Truck construction only. 245/70 R16 are $310 ea. I can get the Bridgestone D694, same size for $210ea.

i can't wear the additional $400 for them.
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 10:55

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 10:55
2 sidewall punctures during the life of the tyres (tree roots in sand) and you will realise it was false economy.........

If you can get the tyres side by side have a look at the difference in the construction (particularly sidewall carcass thickness)

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Reply By: Charlie - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 18:55

Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 18:55
Don't forget LT tyres have a lot deeper tread,I'm sure you'll get more than $50 extra wear out of each tyre.I'm sure yokaharma would also do something similair but once again their an expensive tyre.
Charlie
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Follow Up By: Jimbo (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 19:56

Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 19:56
I agree - I'm heading towards 70k+ on BFG AT KO's on my Hilux, and I only paid $240 per tyre.
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Reply By: The Banjo - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 20:52

Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 20:52
Paid $255 fitted and balanced in Adelaide (Seaton Tyres) - another quote was $265 (Tyrepower branch). I reckon they're worth the extra, but you need to be happy with your own judgement. Got 80k from the first set (see earlier post). Who wants $310 for them ?
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Reply By: dolfn - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 08:07

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 08:07
Gday Nathan,

Just to clarify a vital point. If you have a Disco II, as I have, you can fit 245/75/R16 which I have on mine. This size is a more common size than 245/70/R16 and even the 235/70/R16 which is the standard size.

I would no go past Cooper Tires.

I have the ST, which is a bit more aggressive than your standard AT, but a do quite a bit of off roading, mud rock etc.

Cooper also make a standard AT, very similar to the Michelin fitted as standard. COopers are around $240 each and they have a 60 to 80 000 Km guarantee.

Check them out at http://www.coopertires.com.au/

Cheers

Kelvin Yeats
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Follow Up By: NathanK - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 09:49

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 09:49
thanks kelvin - i have the Disco 1, and 245/70 is the largest size i can fit in my arches. sometime i wish i had a series 2, like now!

the other main issue is that i'm going to be selling the car after this trip, so i only really want something that will last and handle the trip okay, and still be in good condition to help sell it in 2-3 months time.

that's why paying an extra $50+ per tyre isn't appealing to me.
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Follow Up By: SimonIT - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 11:10

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 11:10
Nathan, I have a Disco series I and went through the same exercise as you. In the end I went with the Cooper AT 245/75/R16 because I really wanted the LT tyres. Have had no problems with touching body parts but also had it lifted with OME +2" at the same time, only had to adjust steering stop slightly.

If you're going to sell your car after the trip however, I wouldn't be spending the extra money because you won't get much of it back.

Cheers.
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Follow Up By: NathanK - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 12:11

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 12:11
thanks for that simon. i was going to fit the 2" lift to the car, but once again - not much point if selling it. i'm doing Nitrocharger shocks all round b/c the current ones are stuffed, but i think that might be it.

i'll probably go with the D694's and just be careful over any rocky tracks or loose rocks up there. 90% of the off-road i do is purely sand and deep sand, so they should be fine for me.

i'll just get two 2nd hand spares for safety!
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