Tyre Pressures Again
Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 22:51
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DiesAl
I have looked through the archives and found a lot of formites refering to the 4psi rule. When I use this I find that the rear tyres have somewhere between 3 - 5psi less than the front. I have a DC Hilux with a bullbar and most of the time nothing loaded in the back. The toyota manual only gives recommended pressures for a loaded vehicle with the rear having more pressure than the front. The local tyre outlet says run 40psi all round. Is it advisable to run with less pressure in the rear than the front as the 4psi rule suggests, then increase pressure when loaded ?
Reply By: Jimbo (WA) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 00:48
Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 00:48
DiesAl,
I too have a hilux and have been told to run 40 psi all round by my tyre place - on BFG AT KO's.
I have been running that for about 15, 000 kms now and after experimenting with the 4 psi rule only last week found that that is about right for my set-up. My car weighs in at 2420 kg though, with only about 100 kg difference between the front and rear axle weights.
So in other words, 40 psi is right for me. If you only have a bulbar, and not much else added to your car, and you travel unladen mostly, then I would think that what you have discovered playing with the 4 psi rule is about right.
Best thing to do would be to go with it for a while and see what you think -
check out your wear patterns in a few thousand k's and see if 40 front / 36 rear is right for you.
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Follow Up By: DiesAl - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 15:45
Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 15:45
Thanks Jimbo, nice rig mate. You need to update your rig
pic so we can see all those xtra goodies....... Do you have anything in the way of Duel battery setup ? As I would like to include this down the track from my investigations looks like I'll be putting it the tray no room under the bonnet.
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Follow Up By: Jimbo (WA) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 22:06
Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 22:06
DiesAl,
Yeah I know I need a new
pic, but have to get off my arts and borrow my mates digital camera to get that done. Soon!
I have been researching (read that as I know what I want but don't have the sheckels yet) the dual battery thing and have decided that it will be going in or under the tray as
well.
I need to win the lotto.........
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Follow Up By: DiesAl - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 22:09
Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 22:09
I know the feeling I've just streached the budget to book the Hilux in for some scuba gear.....Next week hopefully
Happy
Easter & safe travels
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Reply By: Paul's lot - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 10:02
Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 10:02
The bull bar because it hangs forward of the axle and not over it likke most weights will put load on your tyres and if you talk to
suspension people they will tell you the same which is why they recommend heavier springs when you have a winch bar.
Your pressure in the front is paramount as this is where the load is when the vehicle is unlaiden. I run 40 in the front and 35 in the back on my unlaiden hilux and this gives great results for comfort and tyre wear. When laiden with a heavy load I increase the rear to 40 as
well but to run 40 in the rear unlaiden will make it more prone to axle hop on uneven surfaces.
Having said all that these pressures are for bitchumen running and are all out the window when i get on rough tracks where I reduce the pressures.
Hope this helps sunshine
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Follow Up By: DiesAl - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 15:59
Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 15:59
Thanks Paul, I'm running nearly 40 in the front now and have found this to be about right. Just of interest what do you run offroad on gravel, sand & mud?
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Reply By: Paul's lot - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 17:05
Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 17:05
It changes depending on the surface. My own preferences are 18psi heavysand 15 psi soft sand but I do go down to 10 to 12 in certain circumstances in this terrain but the lower you go the more prone you become to rolling a tyre off the rim and you must keep this in mind and avoid sharp turning with pressures that low for safety reasons.
22 to 24psi is what I use for general offroad. I used these pressures on the cordillo from
Birdsville to innaminka kept the speed at around 90kph and never had any problem. Over sharp gibber like that your speed becomes as critical as your pressures.
There are probably hundreds out there that would rubbish my phylosophies but it has worked for me and as yet I haven't rolled a tyre off a rim or shredded one so I'm either lucky or somewhere around the mark.
Good luck with your ventures, there is no right or wrongs but just preferences and guidelines it's up to you to wade your way through them and decide what works for you. See ya buddy.
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Follow Up By: DiesAl - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 17:21
Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 17:21
Thanks Paul, do you apply the same rule for all brands of tyre or do you find some tyres handle these pressures better than others.
Mate whether anyone rubbishes your philosophies or not as you said it works for you and that's all that counts, I find it's good to speak to people and find out their
views as it then gives me a starting point to begin the wading.
Have a Happy
Easter and safe travels
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