Finke Desert Race Problems

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A report from ABC Alice Springs
"Claims of threatening behaviour by campers during the Finke Desert Race has led the National Road Transport Hall of Fame to say 'no more campers'"
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Reply By: Member - John - Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 15:22

Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 15:22
Sad to see some bad apples spoil it for the rest...... at least at this stage the ban is only the first 20ks.......... unfortunately the bad apples may move on to other parts of the track and if they act the same way, bugger that up also...............
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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 15:48

Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 15:48
Just another example of people failing to do as the agreement was for their stay on the property. As has been said...idiots like this will eventually shut a lot more areas down. People whinge when more and more stipulations are put into place. I do too. Stop the stupidity and maybe things will get better.

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Reply By: jamesw - Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 16:00

Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 16:00
Just proves that "Bogans" are indeed a growing part of the population. This breed of feral should be controlled in some way.

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Follow Up By: Member - John - Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 16:38

Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 16:38
a cull is how ferals' are usually controlled...............
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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 17:28

Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 17:28
Just proves that "Bogans" are indeed a growing part of the population and a cull is how ferals' are usually controlled..

Well I guess that would lower Australia's population by 25 to 30 percent !


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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 18:17

Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 18:17
Trouble is "ferals" are just as mobile as the rest of us now.

They've stuffed up everywhere else, and are now heading into more remote areas.

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Reply By: aussiedingo (River Rina) - Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 17:30

Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 17:30
each generation is degenerating! - our grandparents/great grandparents didn't have to lock anything or clean up after anyone else!
"the only thing constant in my life is change"




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Follow Up By: nats - Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 18:41

Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 18:41
I understand where you are coming from, but I'm not sure that what you say is accurate. A. B. Facey's wonderful biography 'A Fortunate Life' - a fair dinkum bit of historical writing - chronicles dastardly dishonesty in the bush early last century. We humans are what we are.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 22:30

Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 22:30
Yes, nats, generations change but I don't think there has previously been, to the same extent, the uncaring "up-you-mate, I'll $%^&* do what I $%^& like and $%^& the rest of ya" attitude that the current crop of bogans present.
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 23:52

Thursday, Jun 18, 2015 at 23:52
I'm with nats....

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

A quote supposedly attributed to Socrates by Plato around 400BC if you trust the internet. Rose coloured glasses concerning the older generation seem to have been around a while...

Statistically speaking it has never been safer to travel around in the bush on many different levels. Maybe the rudeness index is up?


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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 06:43

Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 06:43
Good on them.

Having been through there after the race, I could not believe the rubbish all over the place.

I have no idea why the spectators had to be such pigs and why this event has deteriorated to the point that a one in a year event leads to months more more of trash.


Good riddance.
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Reply By: The Landy - Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 09:23

Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 09:23
Now I’ve only been around for around half-a-century or thereabouts on the positive side, (or is it negative?) of 50 years so it is difficult to get a handle on what it was (really) like a couple of hundred years back. But I suspect there have always been complaints about the “younger generation”.

But if there is a worrying trend that I have noticed over the years it is this concept of “it is all about me, and that is all that matter, ta' hell with the rest of youse (sic)"...

It permeates across all of our society…

I believe the genesis of the problem has its roots in a simple “lack of respect”.

No more, or less than simply a lack of respect for oneself, but importantly, for others.

We see it on our sports fields, our workplaces, in our Parliaments and captured instantly by the media it becomes entertainment for the masses (hell - what would the daily news be if they didn't have our pollies degrading their opponents everyday)

Crikey, we even see it on internet forums…

But if the reports in this story are accurate, and there is no reason to doubt them, it is a real tragedy that a great event is spoiled in this way, especially the report of older volunteers being harassed.

Whoops, it’s Friday, don’t get worked up Baz…

Good weekend to all, Baz – The Landy
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:26

Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:26
Maybe everyone is learning life lessons from Game of Thrones? It doesn't pay to be a nice guy there. :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 16:59

Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 16:59
Howdy Guys

I run a 4wd and motorbike tour company - a few years ago I took 30 Japanese tourists on a five day road bike trip. We had the 30 bikes lined up at my friends bike shop, one of which was the latest model most powerful fastest Kawasaki you could buy at the time.

The tourists got off the bus at the shop - saw the said Kawasaki and all raced for it with large amounts of push and shove trying to be the one that gets to take the Kwaka. I looked at my mate as we thought how on earth are we going to sort out who gets this bike when the oldest bloke in the group ( 69 we found out after ) casually walked over, put his back pack on the bike and without any fuss or hesitation all the others just dispersed !


Over here it would have been p--- off you stupid old b-----d


This is what we lack in this once great country RESPECT !!


Happy and Safe travelling


Cheers Gazz



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Reply By: Member - mike g2 - Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:16

Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:16
Not surprised Rod. see the response from stadium crowd during 1 min silence for Ron Clarke recently on TV- after about 20 secs the heckling began.
perhaps members of this forum could contact the NRTH of fame and say..that's all very good, but penalise the majority for a few? do they have any 'policing' options such as inviting local rangers to patrol the race areas?.( have a reporting system for dob in a bogan?)
closed camping areas north of lancelin WA were patrolled in recent years, initially to rise awareness and then to apply the changes by moving campers on.
Trashing of areas with rubbish, environment damage, anti social behaviour is an ongoing issue almost anywhere now.
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Reply By: Member - Gnomey - Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:23

Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:23
I not really a buyer of the bad apples thesis. Yes, there have always been anti social individuals – criminals or not – with backgrounds that may explain their behaviour or offer no explanation at all.

Moving on to the other explanation offered, yes, successive generations complain about the “young people of today” - sometimes with cause, other times with the resentment that envy breeds.

However, what bothers me about both these accounts of anti-social behaviour whether scaled by frequency and/or intensity is the more than sneaking suspicion that they avoid more than they explain.

If there has been a failure to properly socialise these people who is at fault? Whose KPI scores need a bit of reconsideration? Sparing you the grinding sociological analysis I would suggest the failure of individual responsibility, including respect and consideration for others which is also part of collective responsibility, reflects on prior and surrounding failures of individual responsibility and of collective responsibility. Also when you implement a dog eat dog philosophy characterised by Thatcher's “there is no such thing as society”. There are individual men and women and there are families.” stay tuned for the results.

Here's a last reflection. When that drunken scumbag was chasing the elderly volunteer what were all the witnesses doing, other than watching and even more importantly, why?

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Follow Up By: The Landy - Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:33

Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:33
Hear, hear!

Gets my vote for "post of the week".

Cheers,
Baz
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 18:56

Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 18:56
"When that drunken scumbag was chasing the elderly volunteer what were all the witnesses doing, other than watching and even more importantly, why?"

I'll take a wild stab at that one.

Recording the event with their mobile phones to post on You Tube.

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Reply By: TomH - Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 17:26

Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 17:26
Another thought is that people of our generation probably bred them.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 19:22

Friday, Jun 19, 2015 at 19:22
You're right Tom.
We bred them and tried to teach them respect and all the other stuff while they were younger, but going to school and Uni soon destroyed all our good work.

That's where they were taught that they are so perfect that the world owes them everything, that the most important person in the world is me and that they can do as they like with impunity.

It comes as a very big surprise when they go out into the world that they do not come first, that they have to start at the lower rungs in business and no-one covers their back when they stuff up because they know everything, don't they.

Eventually most learn from the experiences and become decent people but there is always a few who. despite everyone trying to guide them along the way, just simply remain bogans, or even worse, bloody ferals, who will never learn common sense or decency. More's the pity.

That's my Friday rant done and dusted.

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