Are Jerry Cans Legal

Submitted: Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 13:17
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After reading several threads on the site i have been ringing around to see if carring fuel in jerry cans on the rear of a vechile and so far all in info i have got back is that it is, can anyone shead any more light on this issue.
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Reply By: Well 55 - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 13:26

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 13:26
From what I gather you can carry them on a trailer front or side as long as it is within the guards, but not on the rear of a vehicle.

Even though the handbook for my patrol shows a "Jerrican" their spelling not mine on the back.

Kaymar will tel you theirs is a water drum holder.
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Follow Up By: 10 Para (Qld) - Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 09:14

Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 09:14
Hi Well 55 just got the latest broucher out from Kaymar and on the front is a rear bar with a fuel can in the holder.
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 14:12

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 14:12
It state's well ventilated place within the confine's of the vehicle where fume's cannot leak inside vehicle. ( eg: on trailer, on drawbar, or in front or behind wheel arch facing the towing vehicle ) i'm assuming that if on the towing vehice must not stick out so not on wheel carrier or similar device and not inside.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: uppy - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 14:53

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 14:53
Hi Baz nsw, Can you carry 2 jerry cans on the roof with spare wheel and tent in Winter.thanks
regards uppy
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Follow Up By: flappan - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 15:11

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 15:11
Yes, its within the lines of the vehicle.

Its argued whether thats a good idea on COG grounds , but yes, its legal.

I have heard that diesel in Jerry's can be carried ANYWHERE , cause it wont catch fire like Petrol , but I cant find it written anywhere , just "fuel" ?
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 16:41

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 16:41
As it say's within, not sticking out, on the roof is not within the confines of vehicle, nice try though, don't know if the RTA inspector would be amused, it's fuel so it covers all. If you have a ute you could put under the back like a toolbox. hope i've helped uppy.

Baz.

PS, not a good idea even if it was legal, think about it, spring a leak, were will the fuel go ???
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 17:14

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 17:14
Uppy, you still trying to fill up that school bus!
I would be worried about all the weight of jerrys and a spare on the rood upps! Even your evil patrol will start to yor a bit with all that up there.

From what I can understand from the posts of today and the past on this subject is that it is legal to carry up to 250L of ULP for personel use with no limit on deisel , you just can't acutally put it anywhere without breaking the law.
My two jerrys of diesel just go in the back with all the other crap tied in so they can't fall over and keep the windows a crack down when we stop so it doesnt smell like arse end of a kenworth when we get back in.
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 19:17

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 19:17
To coin a phrase...For crying out aloud...read the bloody archives. There is a whole thread there with all the details of all the legislative ramifications for each State and Territory for the carriage of extra fuel.

Yes you can carry fuel in jerrycans inside your vehicle.

Some of your answers are just guess work and paranoia.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: 10 Para (Qld) - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 22:16

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 22:16
Hi Willem the question was can one carry fuel ULP in jerry cans on the rear of a vechile fitted to a swing away arm, not inside a vechile.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rohan K - Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 22:37

Thursday, Apr 08, 2004 at 22:37
And read each state's regulations because this is one that varies considerably from state to state.

In response to the original, and restated question - in NSW the answer is no. It is illegal to carry fuel on one of those external carriers. This response, unlike some of the above (as referred to by Willem) is fact.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:07

Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:07
10Para...yes I was referring to some of the other answers. As far as I am aware there is no legislation stating that you cannot carry fuel on the rear of a vehicle. Thousands of travellers do especially on the rear of caravans and on the sides of trailers. How many get pulled up?

Rohan...How about posting excerpts of the legislation here on the forum.Then we will all know what is fact and what is fiction.

Cheers,
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Follow Up By: Member - Rohan K - Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 18:44

Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 18:44
Willem, happy to but I'm heading off for a few weeks. Remind me again after ANZAC day, I'll dig it out and pot it.

Have a great Easter and keep safe.
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Reply By: Member - Toonfish - Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 16:23

Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 16:23
In all states of OZ Diesel is not classed as dangerous flammable liquid?

obviously they have never used and ar,y style immersion water heater!

thats why they are called chuffers!!!

too much drpping fuel from tap and they blow they smoke stack pretty high!!!!!!!!

i know from being shown by a pro (my sargeant) lol
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 19:39

Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 19:39
Further to this thread some info gained from 4WD Monthly Mag May 2004.

In the back of the mag where all the ads are there is a full page ad for a Rear Step and Tow Bar incorporating a swing away jerry can holder. The ad claims that their bars comply to ADR standards. A steel jerry can is fitted to the display pic. Steel jerry cans are not for carrying water.

I doubt if the States can override Australian Design Rules.

ORE website is www.offroadequipment.com
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Follow Up By: navaraman - Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 20:00

Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 20:00
I've been questioning the states v ADR on another forum (Overlander). In SA the regulations regarding tinting windscreens differs to all the other states and the ADR. There are other anomalies too from memory. If carrying jerry cans is legal they'll soon change it, along with bullbars, driving lights, mud tyres, whatever else they can do to p!ss us off.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 23:34

Friday, Apr 09, 2004 at 23:34
I would like to retract my comments on fuel , i was quoting the reg's for gas bottle's, i apoligise if i have mislead anyone and i apoligise to uppy aspecialy, sorry mate was not thinking at the time.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Apr 10, 2004 at 06:19

Saturday, Apr 10, 2004 at 06:19
navaraman....you could be right in some aspects of the States vs ADR. I rememebr looking at the ADR's once and there are some Sate Regulations which can override the ADR. But basically you are more prone to be looked at in the cities than out here in the sticks. Personally I don't care about all the rules and regulations. I don't insure my truck so there is no issue with insurance. I do know that there cannot be retrospective legistation on bullbars etc. I keep my old truck neat and tidy and don't do anything too obvious to it. When fully loaded for a remote trek I carry 230litres of fuel in my LR tank and inside the truckand a further 140 litres in the trailer. My gasbottle lives on my swingaway spare wheel carrier. I prefer to cook on open fires when allowed to.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: uppy - Saturday, Apr 10, 2004 at 11:04

Saturday, Apr 10, 2004 at 11:04
Thanks Baz, for taking the time to reply.Have a happy Easter
regards uppy
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Reply By: 10 Para (Qld) - Saturday, Apr 10, 2004 at 07:33

Saturday, Apr 10, 2004 at 07:33
Thanks for all that you guy's, so nthis is what i will do put 2X20litre steel jerry cans on the Kayma swing away arm next to the spare, and put the 2kg LPG bottle up on the rack, also on the rack will be 4X10 steel jerry can which will only be filled in desperate times, once again thanks for that.
Regards
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