2014/15 Mazda Auto 6 speed

Submitted: Monday, Jun 29, 2015 at 17:06
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Hi Everyone
I was told today that the above vehicles' gearbox uses a water based glue which will not successfully stop water penetration. I am not up with gearboxes but is anyone familiar with this?

Thanks
Morto
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Reply By: fisho64 - Monday, Jun 29, 2015 at 21:13

Monday, Jun 29, 2015 at 21:13
a water based glue?
For what?
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Follow Up By: TomH - Monday, Jun 29, 2015 at 22:15

Monday, Jun 29, 2015 at 22:15
The car together ROFL
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Monday, Jun 29, 2015 at 22:30

Monday, Jun 29, 2015 at 22:30
sounds plausable.
However you would expect that if its fitted with windscreen wipers, it would be safe to drive it in the rain
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Reply By: Frank P (NSW) - Monday, Jun 29, 2015 at 23:13

Monday, Jun 29, 2015 at 23:13
Which Mazda would that apply to?

I drove my 2014 6 speed auto BT50 through 3 days of rain and a couple of water crossings recently. I still have six speeds, all the same as when they came out of the factory :-)

Mazda have factory-standard remote, diff, transmission, and transfer case breathers and advertise 800mm wading depth which would get the transmission wet.

Same for Ford Ranger - they are virtually the same vehicle mechanically.

The forums report some manual transmissions have a sticky shift. Maybe that's where the glue went :-)

My money is on mischievous urban myth. Hope I'm right.
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Follow Up By: Slow one - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 06:21

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 06:21
I am with Frank re the urban myth or troll information, liberally applied around the traps.

The tranny oil in mine hasn't leaked out due to water crossings, water blasting or rain spray.

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Reply By: gbc - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 07:18

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 07:18
Holds hot liquid oil in, but won't keep water out. Sounds reasonable to me.
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Reply By: Ross M - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:17

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:17
Morto
I think you have been mated. ie, believing someone, "mate", who tells a story and it is believed.
I would also be interested in what glue is used in the gearbox and where and why.
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Reply By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:28

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:28
I gotta admit, every gearbox I have come across, and there have been a few, in my life spent working on machinery, have been held together with bolts.

Never came across any glued together. Mind you, I wouldn't be surprised how cars are held together nowadays. Apparently the firewall in some makes is held in by some sort of high quality adhesive.
I haven't heard of any falling apart after going through the local car wash.

Cheers
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Reply By: member - mazcan - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 16:11

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 16:11
hi morto
its apparent you have very little mechanical knowledge and some one is taking the p---- out of you
all gasket sealants are special compounds and are definatley not water soluble so i would suggest you erase that imfo from your mind you'll just make a laughing stock of yourself each time you mention it
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Follow Up By: morto1701@gmail.com - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 18:45

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 18:45
If this is indeed the case your statement is just as dumb as my question. People come on this forum to ask questions about things they do not have experience in. Your advice is appreciated your attitude is not.
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Follow Up By: Rob J8 - Wednesday, Jul 01, 2015 at 00:58

Wednesday, Jul 01, 2015 at 00:58
I think you might be wrong mazcan; I seem to remember an EA Falcon 4speed auto taxi I owned suffered a water ingression from a shredded cooler tube in the radiator.
The auto specialist told me the bands were glued with a water based glue. The bands came unstuck literally and I had to have the box rebuilt.
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Follow Up By: Slow one - Wednesday, Jul 01, 2015 at 05:52

Wednesday, Jul 01, 2015 at 05:52
Rob,
What happened to your box is entirely different to the question asked.

Your box suffered a failure because it was attacked from water that had entered the box via a radiator associated failure. The question asked, was whether the seals or sealing material are water based and allow water to enter the box.

Morto, I don't believe any question is stupid and I definitely don't think anyone except one or two will believe that you made a laughing stock out of yourself.

Fair question but myth dispelled.
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Reply By: Hoyks - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 16:53

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 16:53
It is possible that a water based sealant/adhesive is used in the assembly of the vehicle, many vehicles are painted with water based paints these days, but you don't see them stripped back to bare metal when it rains.
Once cured, these type of products are resistant to most things.
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Follow Up By: Hoyks - Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 16:54

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2015 at 16:54
I also did Cape York in mine and the contents of the drive train haven't fallen out yet.
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