Wiper blades

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G'day all, just a quick question, any body know of a trick to make wiper blades run smoothly, they have only been on the car a sort time, but always seem to shudder and noisey... Thought I heard of a few tricks, but can't remember.. Cheers
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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 14:06

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 14:06
Try giving the windscreen a really good clean.
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Reply By: brianc - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 14:27

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 14:27
I found the best solution is to buy good quality ones. The cheapo plastic ones always don't work, my LC uses the ones with the steel strip reinforcement.
Genuine ones also work, but man -I just can't pay that much for a wiper blade!
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Follow Up By: Glenn C5 - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 14:47

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 14:47
Yes Good quality ones are the way to go
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 18:31

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 18:31
Not in my experience - just as bad as the cheapies - the ones in my car at the moment and cost $45 each (not the pair) and have been in 3 months and do exactly what the OP says his does.
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Reply By: Member - Odog - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 14:58

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 14:58
Yes, good quality ones, got these from a large discount chain, they weren't that cheap.. Middle of the road price wise.. Just thought i heard of an easy fix, as in a quick wipe down the blade with something... Any way, I'll experiment.. Or replace... Thanks all. Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 15:03

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 15:03
Hi Odog

I used to have that issue with the cheap ones from auto stores. I now only used genuine blades, yes they may be dear, but work perfect and last for years.


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Follow Up By: Member - Odog - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 17:45

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 17:45
Hi Stephen, thanks for the reply, think I will just change them, it's my wife's car, and think it's starting to annoy her... Best to stay in the good books... Cheers
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Follow Up By: Legendts - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 20:43

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 20:43
I also now do as Stephen and others above do and haven't had any issues since. Did read on another forum that you can use super fine steel wool ( grade 0000) to thoroughly clean your windscreen of road grime etc. I have not tried it so cannot say how good or if it might scratch the screen although that fine I doubt it. If you decide to give it a go I would be doing it on old glass first or if near a wreckers have a go on one of the wrecks.
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Follow Up By: Legendts - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 20:45

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 20:45
Oops didn't read Flightys post below.
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Reply By: Flighty ( WA ) - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 15:32

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 15:32
Odog
Have found that scrub the screen with window cleaner using grade 0000 steel wool will help quite a lot.
then clean as normal and wipers should be smoother , no matter what type of blade.
I do this at least once a month and give screen a "touch up " in between with rainX.
the steel wool removes all fine grime and oily residues that causes the blades to become sticky, and the rainX fills all the tiny chips and imperfections on the windscreen, thus helping the blades travel over a smoother surface
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Follow Up By: Rob 49 - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 17:06

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 17:06
You're on the money Flighty. A clean windscreen with Rain-X applied gives any quality of wiper blade a better surface to run on.
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Follow Up By: Member - Leigh (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 20:58

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 20:58
Yep, mine run better over a coat of rainx.
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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 16:52

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 16:52
Hi Odog,

I have had my Wiper Troubles over the years and the most annoying was Wiper Squeak. I tried all sorts of remedies including all those mentioned above (Except the steel wool) and more including expensive blades such as silicon (the worst) without finding a permanent solution. Then, in searching the internet I found an American wiper blade manufacturer who said that the remedy was to use Natural Rubber blades, not synthetic. (can't find the link now) That solved the problem straight off and I have had perfect wiper action ever since. I think the rubber blades are less durable though so they are replaced annually. It's a small cost for the benefit.
The Natural Rubber blades are a little more expensive than standard synthetic blade but still reasonable from Super Cheap and less expensive than some of their fancy Ring-a-Ding ones.

Perhaps more to your point, shuddering of the blades can be caused by incorrect blade alignment...... they should lean backwards just a little in BOTH directions, flopping over at the reversal of travel. If they don't flop-over they WILL shudder! You may achieve good results by replacing the blade supporting mechanism. That is the whole assembly attached to the wiper arm. They are not all that expensive. The 'Beam-type Assembly is less likely to shudder due to its more rigid construction, see here.

There is also some useful advice on this website.
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Follow Up By: Member - Odog - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 17:55

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 17:55
Thanks Allan, good links with useful info, might give the screen a bit of a polish, and give the wd40 a go, see if the wife is happy with that, other wise, new blades I guess. Thanks again. Cheers
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 18:34

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 18:34
Odog/Allan,

Watched a YouTube video the other day where Ol' Mate cleaned the screen, then rubbed it with a clay block and finally polished with auto polish. Haven't tried this yet, but bought a clay block the other day, to try it.

Like Allan, I tried silicon blades(if it's good for boobs, then must okay on a screen???) but they screeched all the time, except when used with copious amounts of windscreen washer fluid.

Didn't realise w'blades had differing price structures? Have to wear my glasses next time I'm in Supercheap.

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Follow Up By: Member - Odog - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 20:12

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 20:12
Hey Bob, if they screech when you give them a squeeze, could be a bit of a put off eh! Lol. Thanks buddy
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Reply By: Member - Noah273 - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 17:49

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 17:49
Try rubbing fine wetn'dry sandpaper along the edges of the blades, I used to rejuvenate old wipers this way when I was young and poor but I also think this will also work for new blades that shudder.
Keep us posted if this works.

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Reply By: Member - Terry W4 - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 18:56

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 18:56
Found this exchange very helpful given I need at my next service to get them replaced.

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Reply By: laurie b1 - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 19:30

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 19:30
Just use either ajax or jiff cream clenser and rub the wiper blades both sides and the problem will go away till next time.
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Reply By: Athol W1 - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 19:54

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 19:54
Odog
Firstly the mechanism of the wiper blade must be such that the blade always trails in both directions of travel.
I have also found that rubber blades will last a lot longer with the occasional wipe with a rag soaked with Armor All Protectant. It can also assist with the noisy operation.

Hope this helps.
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Reply By: Gary T7 - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 21:04

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 21:04
In my previous life when I worked for ford, they had a special tool to fit to the wiper arm end to check the arm was level to the wind screen. After taking off the wiper blade assembly from the arm and fitting the special tool to the end of the arm the rod went side ways across the screen .then you had to bend the end of the arm with two spanners till it was level with the glass this insured the blade flopped each way correctly and stopped the shudder. Or you could just put a ruler across the top of the arm at the end (right angle) to see that the ruler was level with the screen if not adjust with two spanners. holding arm and twisting with the other.

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Reply By: Echucan Bob - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 21:44

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 21:44
Talking about steel wool on the windscreen ,

wouldn't you just love to throttle the little bastrads that scratch every window on suburban trains.

What drives their tiny brains to destroy a huge piece of glass by scratching their name into it?

If anyone is interested in forming some vigilante groups to rid us of these mongrels please let me know.

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Reply By: Member Andys Adventures - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 21:52

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 21:52
Are you using detergent in the wiper bottle, as some can make the glass grip the wiper blade.
I use the little satchel from the dealer, cleans the bugs of the windscreen with ease.
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Reply By: Member - KeithB - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 23:57

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2015 at 23:57
I bought a set of Bosch ones from Windscreens Obrien at the inflated cost of $80. They are fantastic.
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Follow Up By: bluefella - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 07:27

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 07:27
x2 for Bosch, not cheap but well worth the money.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 08:23

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 08:23
Ha ha, I bought a new windscreen for my Falcon from O'Briens, in Cairns, 12 months ago.

Got a "free" set of wiper blades at the time...........work well.

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Follow Up By: BunderDog - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 09:31

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 09:31
I got a pair from O'Briens yesterday when I had the windscreen replaced on my 105, $45 was the cost. Now I'm waiting for some rain to see if they work.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 12:11

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 12:11
I have bosche and they are no better than $12 wipers from repco
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Reply By: Member - abqaiq - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 08:01

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 08:01
Interesting to read that people have had bad experiences with Silicone wiper blades. I had a pair in Saudi Arabia for 10 years in that heat without any problems. Windshield surface temperatures 90+ C in summer and muddy rain in the winter. Rubber ones last one season, maximum.

Flipping the blades periodically [when possible] so they don't take a directional set and won't flip on the opposite stroke helps.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 08:13

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 08:13
Yes abqaiq, Maybe there's Silicon Blades and silicon blades, Some good, some not so good?
And same for rubber?
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Reply By: Dingojim - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 09:21

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 09:21
Clean the screen well with a bit of truck wash or similar then polish screen with Mr Sheen furniture polish will reduce friction between screen and wiper blade. It also acts almost as well as RainX in shedding water. Extra good on solar panels to stop dust and crud sticking.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 17:42

Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 17:42
Your panel will love you when it comes time to do any repairs, Mr Sheen is almost pure silicone!


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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 19:38

Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 19:38
Sorry, read "Your panel shop ........"
I can't understand why we can't edit our own posts!!

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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 20:07

Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 20:07
At one stage, the company I used to work for, ran a helicopter division with half a dozen R22 Robinsons. The preferred cleaner for the bubbles was Mr Sheen.

Worked well, except on dewy mornings, or after a bit of overnight rain.

I find the Preview button works well as an edit function, Shaker. Always saves a few stuff ups, or for correcting iPhone/iPad "speak".

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Follow Up By: Dingojim - Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 20:18

Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 20:18
Shaker if panel shops were relying on me for a living they would all be broke. I had my first claim in 54 years last year courtesy of a demented roo.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 22:09

Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 22:09
What happened on "dewey mornings or after rain" Bob?
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Jul 10, 2015 at 08:12

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As I recall Allan, the moisture on the bubble would make the Mr Sheen go cloudy, and it was difficult to "buff" the surface to a clear finish.

Most of the pilots would just take off, and the bubble would clear as it dried off.

Then there was the odd pilot who rarely cleaned the bubble, and this was a similar effect to clean, moist ones.........with the addition of numerous dried insects. :-)

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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Friday, Jul 10, 2015 at 08:59

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"Most of the pilots would just take off"..... with their head hanging out of the cockpit?? lol
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Reply By: Member - Rosco from way back - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 10:29

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 10:29
You could try giving the screen a good clean and then applying "Rain-x". Causes rain to bead and run off so it may well also work as a lubricant.

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Reply By: nickoff - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 14:02

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 14:02
I've found that the calcium in the water, town or tap, leaves a residue on the glass when it evaporates off, and over time builds up and interfears with the smooth operation of the wipers.

I switched to silicone blades many years ago, but these "Hate"the calcium on the glass and tend to grab and stick at the slightest buildup, whereas the rubber ones glide over and smear.

Now, at least twice a year, I clean my windows, and outside mirrors with cleaning vinegar and a razor blade, gently scraping the glass to "break"the deposits off. You can feel the difference on the glass as you complete a section. when you start, the glass feels rough, but as you finish, you notice it feels smooth under the blade edge. Clean first horizontally the vertically and the diagonally.

after this an application of RainX, and at 80 Kph you don't need to use the wipers at all. Airflow pushes the water on the screen up and off, as it balls up because it has nothing to adhere to.

Also, change the water in your washer bottle to your own mix, using your choice of windscreen cleaner concentrate and distilled water from the supermarket. Don't use the tap water, as you are only adding calcium again.

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Reply By: Member - graeme W (WA) - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 15:36

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2015 at 15:36
Hi Odog.
I use car polish on all the windows, directions on the bottle says not to but been using for years, takes off all the calcium from the water, removes grime, smoothes any scratches etc allowing a smooth bed for the wipers.
Cheers Graeme.
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Reply By: Member - Odog - Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 13:48

Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 13:48
Thanks everyone for replies, gave the windscreen a polish with a wadding of crome polish, wiped the blades down with amour all wipes, heaps of black stuff came off, then finally, topped up the washer bottle with rain X... Seemed heaps better, see how long it lasts.. Thanks again.. Odog
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 14:34

Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 14:34
I didn't think Rain X goes in the windscreen washer bottle - I have been using it since 1977 and I always wiped it on the windscreen. In fact the bottle I have in front of me says that you wipe it on the windscreen and then buff the haze off and you must not let it get in contact with paint work which it will if you put it in the washer bottle.
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Follow Up By: Member - Odog - Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 14:56

Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 14:56
Garrycol, mate, you just made me run out to the shed, missus just read your follow up... Bottle I have is washer bottle additive, thank god... I do remember seeing both types at supacheap... So all good.. Lucky. Thanks for that.. Lol cheers
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 17:44

Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 17:44
No wurries - :-)
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Reply By: nats - Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 19:25

Thursday, Jul 09, 2015 at 19:25
The Mr. Sheen applied after a good, extra thorough, clean has done the job - we had awfully squeaking blades and, even with a totally dry screen, the bloody things were silent.
Bravo!
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