UHF PROTOCOL

Submitted: Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 11:32
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a follow up to a question a couple of days ago
just been up the holland track and encountered many oncoming convoys.as we know the track can be very knarly for several kms and make passing difficult.
i was under the impression that channel 10 was the go for 4x4's, that is what the clubs use and would be great if everyone adopted this channel when offroad. it would mean u could pick up other travellers in advance.
we encountered users on channels 10,14,15,18,25, 40 etc
i eventually put all channels in the group scan, with our channel as priority,to try and forewarn us of oncoming.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 11:44

Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 11:44
You can imagine the noise if everyone was on one channel?

6 convoys all talkin different stuff? someone guiding his mate would say RIGHT HAND DOWN, and everyone swing the helm, and then hit the trees etc next to them.

National channel has its merits, but is still sorta being adopted, our club always uses our club channel 24, then you know you can hook up with other members..

You will always find people on different channels, as lots are not in clubs that travel.
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Follow Up By: howie - Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 17:17

Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 17:17
im not saying 6 convoys using on channel, that is imposiible!
i'm saying if we we use the same channel we would start to 'hear' oncoming or others close by, we could have a chat, a laugh, then one would have to change channel obviously. but a least we would know there are others around and to careful.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 10:55

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 10:55
"i'm saying if we we use the same channel..."

So wouldnt that be the 6 convoys on one channel?
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Follow Up By: howie - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 14:48

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 14:48
no
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 21:43

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 21:43
So how is it different.??
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Reply By: Member Colin - NSW Bungendore - Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 11:56

Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 11:56
Having everyone using the same channel would make the CB "very knarly" as well !

On our last CSR trip we had a UHF set on scan to check for traffic, and everyone else used AM sets - no problems with interference!

This worked fine - BUT - on one occassion we waited for a convoy of 4 cars to pass coming the other way (after making contact using the scanning UHF) - the last car said "thats the last of us" - just as we started off a hired 4WD with no CB or flag, shot over the dune in front of us !!
Another few seconds and we could have had a head-on.

So I suppose you probably need to be flexable, depending on where you are - but always use the scan facility when in dune country.
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Follow Up By: howie - Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 17:37

Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 17:37
thats true. we get close calls on the dunes sometimes. you cant get everyone to toe the line especially d*ckheads in hire cars. dont start me on hire companies.
i thought the wa assoc of 4wd and the national 4wd were pushing the channel 10 idea.
but your right , i will always scan and silence does not mean there isnt
another car heading your way.
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Follow Up By: landie - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 21:05

Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 21:05
I think far too much reliance is placed on radio's. Especially when it comes to identifying other cars in your vicinity.

It isn't compulsory to have a radio (and nor should it be), therefore the only way to ensure you don't have a head-on in dune country, or anywhere else for that matter, is to drive defensively at all times, look out the windscreen and always assume there is another car heading your way just over the crest of a hill.

Let's face it, most of us drive on surburban roads everyday without the need for a radio to ensure we don't run into anybody - so why does it become more important in the bush?

Mind you I have one and always scan, but I never rely on it for identifying oncoming traffic!

Landie

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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 13:52

Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 13:52
That's why you have two cbs'. One scanning and one on your dedicated channel. Even if your second radio is a hand held. That's what I use. It scans and listerns two all the other conversations and I don't miss anything that's going on in our group.
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Follow Up By: howie - Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 17:23

Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 17:23
thats why i put all channels in group scan with our channel as priority.
on the gme this means it scans your priority channel every 4or 6 channels and transmits on the priority.no need for 2 cb's.

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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 17:32

Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 17:32
Yes my GME does that also, however if there is a conversation happening on say channel 40 and you are interested in listening to it but at the same time your convey leader gives you some directions having two radios is advantagous, also even with priorty scanning you still miss the first few seconds of your priorty channel when it is active, it can be quite annoying when you miss the start of the conversation! ;-)
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Follow Up By: howie - Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 17:50

Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 17:50
you obviously haven't listened to our convoy leader. its good to miss all of his conservation!
still, it shows that some people take their scanning seriously,although it wasn't evident at easter.

btw,in future when we are travelling alone i will get the girlfriend to transmit "ping" every 30 secs to alert others.
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Follow Up By: uppy - Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 17:55

Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 17:55
Jeff will mine be able to do that as well ?and with my hand helds i should be able to scan and listern to a channal as will.Ill give you a call later
regards uppy
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Follow Up By: Member - Jiarna (SA) - Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 18:51

Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 18:51
Re group scan on a GME, your priority channel will be scanned every 2-3 seconds, so if the convoy leader waits a couple of seconds before talking after pressing the PTT, everyone will be ready to hear. Works for me.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jiarna (SA) - Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 18:53

Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 18:53
I mean every 2-3 seconds while are receiving on another channel. If not receiving, it scans the priority channel every 4th channel, so every 0.4 seconds.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 18:33

Friday, Apr 16, 2004 at 18:33
Yeah mate yours should have GS. And yeah your little hand helds will scan no probs.
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