12 volt connectors
Submitted: Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 20:46
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Member Eric
I need to do something about my 12 connection from fridge to vehicle , Some people here advised I change the set up from factory and i laughed at them at the time . I now bow my head in shame and humbly ask for the information again . What connections should I run ? a part number would be great . Someone mentioned that there was a hella connection that I could remove the red end clip on my cigi lighter connection, to clip in .
Thanks again , I will have to email the
pic of me with my head in the sand lol
Reply By: Rosco - Bris. - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 20:57
Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 20:57
Not to worry old son ... many more and you'll catch with me.
By the sound of it you have a Waeco unit. The red plastic ring makes the male unit suitable for any female cigar socket.
Remove said ring and the unit is suitable to clip into a Hella/Narva type socket.
Just the trick. I bought a couple from a 12V supplies
shop. Notwithstanding all the best advice you'll receive here, the surface mounted ones have the facility to earth direct to the vehicle via a knurled washer sort of thingy. I scratched a wee tad of paint off the beast at this mounting hole and have found them to work very sucessfully to date. 2 of them, 1 with 7 amps continuous and the other with 5 amps.
I may realise the need to run a separate earth, but at this stage they work fine. Makes for a much neater setup also, with less wires all over the place.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Bris. - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 20:59
Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 20:59
P.S.
Just DON'T loose your ring ... ;-) You need it to plug into the 240V transformer.
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 21:03
Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 21:03
Thanks Rosco , I will for for a drive to Bursons tomorrow . Ill do my best not to loose my ring lol
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Follow Up By: The Publican - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 22:57
Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 22:57
Never ever rely on the vehicle body for earth. *ALWAYS* run a separate earth wire.
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Bris. - Monday, Apr 19, 2004 at 08:01
Monday, Apr 19, 2004 at 08:01
As I said, at this stage it works
well and I've tested it fairly extensively. If it ain't broken ... don't fix it.
I am mindful of the fact that 99% of problems in 12V wiring result from a crook earth. If it stops working I'll know what the problem is and how to fix it.
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Reply By: The Publican - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 22:26
Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 22:26
The Hella DIN plugs are the go.
If you look at the Hella plugs and the cheapies you will find the Hella plugs have properly formed brass contacts with spring tension, where the cheapies only have two brass contacts and often no springs formed. There is generally only 50c to $1.00 difference between the cheapies and the Hella ones.
The Clipsal 32v units are effective and good. However they are *DAMNED* expensive and awfully chunky and large and limited in mounting options.
Cigarette lighter plugs cause more problems and issues along with wrong cable size. The maximum a cigarette lighter plug is good for is 2 amps. The Hella DIN plugs are good for 8 amps, and the Clipsal plugs would be good for around 15 amps.
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Follow Up By: Lachy - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 22:34
Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 22:34
I agree they are chunky but they only cost $9. How much are the hella one?
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Follow Up By: The Publican - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 22:44
Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 22:44
Hella ones are cheaper than $9.00. I think the plugs are about $4.50. I like the Hella ones with the rubber cap and use them everywhere including outside. I do have a Clipsal socket mounted so if anybody has them they can plug in if necessary. I thought everybody would use the '-' for the negative and '|' for the positive - no, I had to put a polarity reversal switch in.
The Clipsal ones should be about $2.50 for a plug and $2.00 for a socket.
I am going overseas again in two weeks time to Asia and will see if there are any available like the Clipsal ones or ones that are suitable. Electrical wiring, connectors conduit etc. is around 10% of the price here.
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Follow Up By: The Publican - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 22:50
Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 22:50
I meant to say "I like the Hella sockets with the rubber cap"
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Follow Up By: Lachy - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 22:58
Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 22:58
What are the Hella plugs. Are they the same as the Anderson plug? Is there a Web site i can look on ??
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Follow Up By: The Publican - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 23:05
Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 23:05
Lachy an Anderson plug is an in-line plug. They are a damned good plug but expensive for what they are. However there is now a Malaysian equivalent that is excellent quality. Anderson plugs are ideal for power battery connections and between say caravan/trailer and vehicle.
Anderson Multi Pole are generally only available in the two pole connectors. You really do need a proper crimping tool to put the terminals onto the cable.
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Follow Up By: The Publican - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 23:07
Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 23:07
Latchy the links for Hella is in the header of this post and for Anderson in the immediate preceding post.
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Follow Up By: Member - Gajm (VIC) - Monday, Apr 19, 2004 at 01:24
Monday, Apr 19, 2004 at 01:24
You can get Anderson plugs for about $9 at www.rsaustralia.com stock #290-612 is the plastic housing about $4.95, and #290-6118 is the contact you crimp onto the cable, $2.20 each.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:10
Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:10
Publican, Do you know of a retailer of the Malaysian jobs?
I see the recommended crimping tool from RS costs $1,340.00...OMG
There's gotta be something cheaper than that.
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