Wall map for recording travels

Submitted: Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:10
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On our recent travels we visited Mr and Mrs Des Lexic and they had a fantastic large Australian Map mounted on a board on his wall that he had recorded all of his travels. I would love to do this as it is a fantastic way of recording our travels and a terrific point of conversation (though Mr Lexic's tongue is extraordinarily active and he needs no encouragement to converse).

I have looked at some wall maps (on the net of course) and there is one called the Hema Australia Supermap that is around 1200 x 1370mm that I would love to have mounted on a board on a wall in my home. I would then draw onto the roads the trips that we have done.

I would like advise on how to mount a map like that to a board as I would hate to have it rippled and creased. And could I buy this map through the Exploroz shop? It is not there at present....

Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Toonfish - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:16

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:16
seen one one e-bay a while back but not lately
sorry mate

u going to wombat?
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:12

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:12
We can't make it to Wombat - yes - my other friend wants to see me too. 'tis hard now that I have two friends to know where to go.
Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Gajm (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:21

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:21
Andrew i attempted to do this a while ago, bought a sheet of mdf, spray adhesive and a fold out map of Oz that Caz told me later i should have ironed first, we sprayed map and board with glue, then lowered the map onto the board starting at one edge, smoothing it out while one person held the other end off the glue. I got 1/4 of the way before it started to go wrong, and crease, it was a horrible mess....so that's not how to do it, i decided then that next time i was in the city i'd go and buy a large laminated map and use that instead
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Follow Up By: Member Colin - NSW Bungendore - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:32

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:32
Gajm
Yep - getting the map laminated is probably the easiest way. And you can use a white board marker which can be rubbed out/moved.

If you use the spray on adhesive method - the secret is to have the map rolled up first, then start at one edge and carefully unroll map onto the board - and 'work' the leading edge slowly back and forth with your fingers slowly as you unroll it, to stop the wrinkles!
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Follow Up By: Member - Gajm (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:35

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:35
I should have done what Andrew had done and asked on the forum first, i didnt think of rolling it up, am suprised my wife didn't tell me that afterwards as well!
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Reply By: Michelle from ExplorOz - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:27

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:27
Andrew,

Yes we will be able to supply this map - it has not been added to the shop database yet - Ode to having a little more time. If you want it we will add it to the system and be able to ship it to you in a few days.

Are others interested in this map?
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Follow Up By: Member - Gajm (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:31

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 00:31
Michelle do you have the laminated version by any chance?
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce (San Diego) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 07:41

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 07:41
Michelle,

I have the Meridian 1:4,750,000 from ExplorOz but am interested in one which is not folded, is the Hema map unfolded?

Bruce
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 07:46

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 07:46
Yes I will have one thank you if it is unfolded. Maybe you could order one which is laminated and then post it to me. Thanks.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:22

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:22
The Hema map I was looking at comes rolled up for wall mounting. On the Hema maps website at Hema maps under wall maps it has a list of maps that are available. The large Australia map can be either laminated or plain.

I think Mr Lexic had his framed and not laminated and he had traced out his trips with a dark texta or marker. It looked fantastic. I think that a plain one would be easier to mark and that the laminated one might be hard to draw on - though I could erase my mistakes.

Definitely would like one Michelle - haven't decided on laminated or plain so give me a day or two. But it would have to be one of the map ones that come in a roll so there are no creases.

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Michelle from ExplorOz - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:37

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:37
Ok - how this works is this:
We can buy every product available from Hema, however the flat maps need to be purchased in bulk so we wanted to gauge your response to the product before stocking up. There is also an issue with handling shipping - as the supermap is longer than the longest Aus. Post tube, but when we buy them from Hema they come in a tube, but 5 at a time, so its hard to ship out the remaining 4 when someone buys one - we just have to hunt around for another tube and work out costs etc.

What we'll do is buy in some quanities of both the flat supermap and the laminated versions as standard shop items. We will announce their availability via the newsletter as usual and then you can buy it from the shop as usual if you wish.

Thanks for your feedback everyone. If there is ever anything out there that you see that you'd be interested in us stocking just ask. We have an excellent range availalbe to us know through our suppliers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:45

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:45
Taa Michelle - I will wait for the announcement and the delivery

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:47

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:47
Michelle
Find out from hema where they get the longer tubes or buy them as a tube and map unit in single form?
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce (San Diego) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:04

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:04
Michelle,

Put me down for a laminated one, I'll have it sent to my Aussie address and I can hand carry back to the US as I will be over in June and July.

Bruce
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Follow Up By: Michelle from ExplorOz - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:32

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:32
OK - have worked out the tube issue... apparently you just tape 2 tubes together to get the length. So, no drama we'll put our order in on Friday so by next week you'll see the products in the shop.
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Follow Up By: Member - Gajm (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:36

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:36
Michelle would it work out cheaper and easier if we posted the tubes back after delievery, I am sure a lot of us wouldn't want to keep the tube, and return postage has to be cheaper than getting a new tube....doesn't it?
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 14:18

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 14:18
Thanks Glenn,
That's an interesting thought - I'll look into that. Sort of like returning coke bottles in the good ole days...
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 14:31

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 14:31
Returning coke bottles like good ole days?
We return ALL our drink containers in SA never see thousands on roadside like you do interstate. SA leading the rest of austalia!
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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 19:57

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 19:57
Hey Pesty,
don't you guys still get deposits on your bottles like we used to in the old days :)

....Michelle i would be interested in a map too if you are still counting heads for buyers....

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Reply By: Member - Shawn - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:26

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:26
Andrew got a map mounted on the wall in our spare room, seems nobody is realy interested except me and my wife, as we know where we have been.

The map is AUSTRALIA 1:5 000 000 General Reference Map ED III about 1200 x 1200 a decent size for marking and the wall, I had it laminated at Office Works, stuck it to a larger piece of masonite with a craft glue and then put a wooden border around the map to make it look a bit me 'professional' to hang on the wall.

Cheers
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Reply By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 06:24

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 06:24
I got mine out of 4x4 australia about half a dozen years ago and got it lamminated and bought a good texta and started marking .
You can buy the same map from map shops via the internet.

Good luck
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:44

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:44
Eric
Does it look pretty good with the texta on the laminate? I thought it might look pretty ordinary and that drawing straight on top of the map might be best. Sounds like the laminated one will be the go.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Graham - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 14:26

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 14:26
I would think that the laminate would be too reflective for hanging on the wall
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 21:25

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 21:25
Andrew and Jen mine is behind my desk and looks ok to me with the texta on it.

All the best
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Reply By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 06:59

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 06:59
Hi Andrew,

We saw the map too, and thought it fantastic, and we're going to do the same thing, I'm going to get the map and take it to somewhere and get it professionally done, I would imagine getting a frame that size could be a bit tricky, so I'm opting for the safe method, there is a framer here in Romsey that I'm going to chat to about it...

Lyn
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Follow Up By: Member - Shawn - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 07:59

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 07:59
Lyn,
All I used for the frame was a lenght of skirting board with a nice pattern and cut it to fit, screwed and glued it together and stained it up.
Looks half decent
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:04

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:04
Hi Shawn, thanks, you've activated some brain cells that have gone dormant over the past couple of days.....I'm not handy when it comes to that sort of thing, however, I have a great neighbour who's hobby is woodwork, I'm sure he could do something for me, might just have a little chat with him

cheers

Lyn
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Follow Up By: Graham - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 14:29

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 14:29
Bunnings hardware has a good range of framing timber
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 07:52

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 07:52
Mine isn't as flash as Des Lexiks' but it has more roads filled in. Have had it for 20 years and it is mounted on a piece of hardboard with a hole at either end to run some picture wire through. It is a Shell Australia Map and it was the folded version.
Time to get a new one.
Regards
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Follow Up By: Member - Gajm (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:29

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:29
Willem from what I have read breifly on your travels it might be easier to get a new one and mark the roads you havn't been on
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 18:24

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 18:24
Gajm...hahahaha very funny...but seriously I figure I have seen about half of this great continent.......there is still a way to go but I may run out of time...will have to get a hurry-up :-)
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Reply By: Rosco - Bris. - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:19

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:19
Andrew

Follow any/all the above advice BUT use glue which is not instant contact type.

Use one which remains slippery for about 2 minutes before going off. Plenty around and allows you to remove creases etc and ensure it is square with the backing board.

You'll find the type you need at an art/craft shop, pressure pack or container.

Good luck
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Reply By: The Publican - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:22

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:22
Phone Geoscience Australia on 1800 800 173 who have all the maps and laminating service you will need for large scale. They package well and put in Aussie Post.
http://www.ga.gov.au/
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:17

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:17
Andrew, we bought a large folded map a year or so back and posted it laminated to America to an exchangee who had worked with us and travelled a lot round Australia. The laminating brought all the colours up well and the creases from the folds dissapeared. It was bl***y big to post and cost a furtune by the time we filled it with Tim Tams and sent it airmail.

Important for you that folding creases completely dissapeared but you would not want to unfold it too many times before it was laminated.

We still get emails from her so know she appreciated the postage.
Cheers,
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Reply By: Troopie - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:49

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:49
Heya
Have a similar thing. I bought a large map of Australia from The Map Shop. It's actually more of a poster map rather than a usable map, so has a series of small outback photos right around the border whick makes it look pretty good. It was already laminated and bought from a shop where it was stored flat (not rolled up already) - so had no trouble getting it to sit flat. I bought some poster hangers from a craft shop and a good permanent marker to trace out our trips.

Cheers
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Reply By: Wombat - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 15:19

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 15:19
Ok guys something that I DO know something about. The trick with mounting something is to spray glue both surfaces and allow them both to dry completely. Then place a piece of clean, dry butcher's paper over the mounting card (covering it entirely). Now place whatever you are mounting on top of the butcher's paper and line it up. At this point nothing should be sticking as the dried glue will only stick to itself and the extra piece of paper between them is keeping the glue from contacting. When you have the two glued pices lined up slowly slide the separating paper away from a corner to allow a corner to contact. Then double check your line-up before gradually sliding the paper out from between the glued surfaces. Gently roll or rub the pieces together as they are contacting. When the separating paper is completely removed you should have a perfectly mounted map.

Good luck!
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Friday, Apr 23, 2004 at 06:53

Friday, Apr 23, 2004 at 06:53
Is the spray glue like a contact adhesive. Do you have a recommendation regarding spray glue?
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Friday, Apr 23, 2004 at 14:07

Friday, Apr 23, 2004 at 14:07
I personally don't use "spray glue". Not only does it stuff the environment, it is hard not to get it everywhere, and it is not very healthy for your lungs in the short term or, believe it or not, your reproductive organs in the long term. We use a product called Milliner's solution which is often labelled as "Art gum rubber cement" and is available from most commercial art supply stores. The trick with this stuff is to mix it with the appropriate hydrocarbon solvent to the consistency of engine oil, pour a puddle onto the centre of your mounting card and spread it around with a small piece of cardboard. Perform the same exercise with your map and follow the sandwich procedure described above. The best thing about Art gum is that once it is dry any residue can be lifted very easily by dabbing it with another blob of dried rubber . . . and it doesn't stain. Once you attempt and master this procedure you'll want to mount everything.
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Follow Up By: Member - Gajm (VIC) - Friday, Apr 23, 2004 at 15:15

Friday, Apr 23, 2004 at 15:15
Thanks for the info Wombat. I will be giving it another go now. So does the "Art gum rubber cement" actualy dry like a contact adhesive before you join the 2 surfaces?
What does anyone think about a smaller map as a coffee table with a sheet of glass on it?
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Reply By: Member - Mike H (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 16:28

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 16:28
Hi,
for those of you who want to mark your routes on a laminated map and don't like to use textas, here is another Idea:
Years ago I used to design PCB layouts, before the time of PC's..
I used "Bishop" precision slit tape.
It's ( was ) available in widths from 1/2 mm to I think about 8 mm.
It's selfadhesive but easily removed again if you make a mistake.
However as far as I know it only comes in black.
I sometimes still use it to lay out a tour route on a map.
See an example under my "Rig" Info ( if I uploaded it ok )
Mike
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike H (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 16:29

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 16:29
Oops,
have to try again.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 16:41

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 16:41
Thanks Mike H - that sounds like a pretty good idea. Where do you get the Bishop slit tape - slit tape is something I have never heard of. Do I just go into Bunnings and ask for slit tape or should I get it from a medical supplier. lol
Was also wondering if the laminate made the map too reflective - what do you reckon?
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike H (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 21:05

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 21:05
Hi Andrew,
I must be a dynasour :-)
Have now been searching for nearly 2 hours for web sites, suppliers etc. for the Bishop Graphic Tapes (american product ) but can't find no reference anywhere on the net. There was also a manufacturer in the UK, "Interplan" Graphic Tapes. Also no luck.
From memory I used to get them from Altronics in Melbourne. Also I think from Radio Parts in Melbourne.
Of course I'm talking about the early to mid 80's.
Also Dick Smith and Tandy used to sell them or a simillar product.
It maybe worthwhile also checking with Art Supply shops.
Sorry I can't help anymore with that.

Regards reflections from the laminated map, no, only if you shine a light directly at it.
Cheers, Mike
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Reply By: Shaker - Friday, Apr 23, 2004 at 17:27

Friday, Apr 23, 2004 at 17:27
Maybe wallpaper adhesive would work Ok!
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - David - Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 12:02

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 12:02
Andrew & Jen,

I will be adding the Super Map in laminated and plain to the system today. I have the packaging sorted and the freight worked out. We have stock etc so it will hit this weeks newsletter - I you want to be sure to get one put your order in early as our stock allocation goes in order of placement.

I just have to put one on the wall and get a pic for the description and adjust the pricing to suit the shipping requirments. Give me 1 hour and it will be live. You will see it in your members home page new product list shortly.
David (DM) & Michelle (MM)
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