Battle of the Standards

Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:26
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G'day all,

100 Series Landcruiser Standard vs Nissan Patrol Standard 4.2 N/A Diesel.
What do people think is the better vehicle (excluding re-sale value and purchase price), both on-road and off, and for towing/touring, and why??

I have heard alot about the LC standard but not alot about the big Nissan diesel in comparison?

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Reply By: Phil P - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:34

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:34
The 4.2 Nissan is not available in Auto, for me this was a show stopper so I went for the 3.0L TD. I prefered to "finish" of the Toyota, but the 5,000KM service intervals put me off.

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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 11:40

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 11:40
Regardless of what the book says, I would be inclined to change the oil every 5k, even of you have to do it yourself. JMHO.
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Follow Up By: thomo - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 20:50

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 20:50
Hi phil i have a standard 100 and the sticker under the bonnet of mine says change oil every 10000klm.
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Reply By: Leroy - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:36

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:36
Hi Cruza,

Probably the Patrol because of the stronger drive train.

Leroy
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:46

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:46
God, who cares, buy a Ford Explorer then you won't this problem.

Baz.
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:49

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:49
But the Nissan 4.2 is intercooled turbo only now! Are you talking 2nd hand vehicles because in that case the service history of the individual vehicle will be far more important than whether its a toyota or nissan.

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Reply By: Davoe - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:53

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:53
Ute! much better off road coz they are over 6inches narrower and 1/2 ton lighter and can fit down tight tracks and float over sand besides I that have driven a few std l/c and they are ok except for all that plastic and vinyl- very bad fung shui and the huge plastic rear bumpers are held on by a few dicky plastic tabs so take cable ties to put them back on they have a lot more power than the utes and certainly are way faster (why is that gearing?) very hard to find a 2nd hand l/c standard that hasnt had a mining or fleet/hire background coz while this post will kick up the same tired unconclusive argument l/c are the kings in that dept
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 11:41

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 11:41
Quick question, nissan plastic bumpers dont come off?
[or move up and break the tail light as I have seen]

And if cruisers are mainly mining, yet 78/79 are only about 3-4000 sales out of the 22,000 odd sold last year, how many 100's go to mining out of the 6-7000 odd they sold of those?

If the ute is better, do mining companies not use these, but 100's instead?

Because these points seem to be what your post is implying?

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Follow Up By: Coops (Pilbara) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:03

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:03
quite a few prados are making their way into mining fleets nowadays too
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Follow Up By: Davoe - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:51

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:51
settle mr offroad,
point 1- I wouldnt have a clue what nissan rear bumbers do I have never driven 1 and there are none at work
point 2 I never said cruisers were mainly mining although I will say that mining uses mainly cruisers
point 3 I dont know how many 100s go to mining but I stand by my point that most l/c STANDARDS go to mining fleet/hire companys
point 4 my reply was ute coz I feel (from driving plenty of work ones) that a ute would suit MY requirments best
point 6 mining companys use a mix of 78/79 and 100s depending on needs eg I use utes alot for putting stuff in the back and carting it around for geos, the shift boss uses a pc to cart the workers around and the rest drive 100s so they can prove they dont have to work lol
point 7 (unrequested) my current vehicle is a cruiser and my next one will probably be one too
point 9 (unrequsted) I dont know what your background is but it is a fair bet I have driven in/been in more cruisers than you can ever hope to in very tough environments so when I make a coment on a cruiser it comes from this background.
and to coops the reason the playdoes are making an appearance in mining is for the bosses so people can see they do even less work than those in 100s (really lol)
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 13:18

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 13:18
Thanks for explaining,

pity most mining cruisers are only standard ones though for you to drive, as afew aftermarket spend ups could see some great info for you to pass on, if you got to drive modified ones too ;-)
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 15:44

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 15:44
Buy Toyota
They have the biggest share of the market.
All those people can not be wrong
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Follow Up By: Member -Bob & Lex (Sydney) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 17:29

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 17:29
Most of those people don't see dirt just school
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