MAPS!?

Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 11:30
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Hi everyone!!!

Can you recommend a good map of Victoria ( no I don't want melways, already got that!!! lol) in the book format that will have a good detals for 4WD tracks, camp sites etc. So far I was only able to find foldable separate maps for different areas and they are 3 squares big (my bonnet is not big enough!) Most of the books that I had a look at are preplanned 4WD trips, I really don't like that. So I'm turning here,maybe you can point me in good direction in finding something good enough!

Many thanks!!!
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Reply By: Member Colin - NSW Bungendore - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:43

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:43
I don't know that you will find a 'decent' map in a book format ? - have you been to a Map shop ? Most 'ordinary' maps don't have the detail that I like - camp sites, historic areas etc. - so one size doesn't fit all !

I have a Hema 'The High Country' map and books 'Bush Tracks' by Moon and '4WD Tracks of the High Country' by Boiling Billy.
Yes the books have Treks for particular destinations, but they also show lots of tracks and other info.in these areas, so you can make your own trek - Boiling Billy books are the best.

My problem is getting a 'Mexican visa' so I can visit some of the great places south of the border!
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Reply By: GaryW - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:59

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:59
We have an ESMap (Emergency Services Map) it is in a book form. It isn't Vic wide though. Coverage is only out to Bacchus Marsh in the west, Kilmore in the north, and Matlock and Mount Baw Baw in the east.

There is some more info at http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/Books/ESMAP.html

Regards
Gaz
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Reply By: Grinner - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 14:38

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 14:38
What you are after are the CFA map books. ESMAP is the one for the outer metro area. There are probably about a dozen books that cover the whole of the state in 1:50,000 or 1:100,000 scale. Unfortunately there is an issue with privacy and these map books, so the new ones being produced are only available to the Emergency Services. You may be able to find some of the older copies still available in some Map shops.

Grinner
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Follow Up By: Grinner - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 14:40

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 14:40
Another thought, the maps are available online to CFA members, maybe you could follow that path.

Grinner
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 16:02

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 16:02
The reason most maps are big, is the state is big, and unless you want about 1,000,000 A4 maps (which would be impossible to follow), they make them big.

The other reason is to get the detail into a map, 1:25000 is the real only way to go in the bush when 4wding. 1:250,000 isnt detailed enough with contour lines showing you how steep tracks actually are.
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Follow Up By: srowlandson - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 16:09

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 16:09
I disagree.

I find 1:100000 plenty for 4wding, have never needed a 1:25000 for anything but hiking.

maybe you need to go to Cub Scouts and learn some map reading and compass skills brucey :P

I have the CFA region 23-24 Book for my trips to the High country, and the Hema High Country and Melbourne Mountain Region.

These 3 are all i use u there. I have a heap of other maps for other areas, and like the large sheet fold out type. I buy 2 copies, one to keep nice as a spare in the car, and the other to work with, fold back on itself crease, draw one, mark and use...

Steve
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 21:57

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 21:57
so what your telling Dragon is that you dont need to have contoure lines , or hill grades ? why not just give the guy a blindfold
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Follow Up By: srowlandson - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 22:07

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 22:07
Last time i looked at my CFA book the little squiggly lines represented contours....

and the Hema make a great route planning / daily over view type map showing features worth seeing.

Steve
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 22:16

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 22:16
CFA maps may be great for the high country , but not everywere , I usualy try and purchase a detailed map as possible for the area I travel in .
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Follow Up By: srowlandson - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 22:28

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 22:28
Agreed...

I find a few good maps of an area can make trip planning and trip navigation handy.

The Vicmap 1:25000 series, whilst great for hiking etc, but you can cover 6-8 sheets in a single day and the close scale isn't really required when driving.

I do like the Meridian Plastic water/Tear resistant maps of the Lerdedreg area etc, if only all maps would come this way. They are excellent.

Steve
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 22:39

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 22:39
CFA maps arent available anymore though... so thats no good.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Apr 29, 2004 at 23:47

Thursday, Apr 29, 2004 at 23:47
I also get all my full size maps laminated.. excellent in the wet, still use em on the bonnet...
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Reply By: Member -Bob & Lex (Sydney) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 17:15

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 17:15
get the natmap CD's then you can print your own maps of whole country, also the Hema road atlas is pretty good.
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Thursday, Apr 29, 2004 at 09:03

Thursday, Apr 29, 2004 at 09:03
Dragan, I have not seen the VicRoads Country Roads Directory mentioned here. It is very good but not the scale of the firemaps. We have a couple editions here including the first 1992-93 I think. Is endorsed by the RACV.

It also has maps of all the towns you will need and a directory of roads and tracks across the state. Businesses around Victoria use it if they don't have the CFA firemaps as a reference.

I expect you could buy it at the RACV, and some good book stores...... It is not quite as heavy as Melways but comes close.
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