Auto or Manual
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paul2.8d
Hi, im thinking of changing from twin cab to wagon, ive seen 2 vehicles im interested in, but one is auto (60 series Cruiser) what is some of your opinions please, your experiences would be greatly appreciated..
Thanks in advance, Paul.........................
Reply By: Davoe - Friday, Apr 30, 2004 at 11:22
Friday, Apr 30, 2004 at 11:22
Apparantly the new autos are good although for a wannabe truckie like me gimmie a stick shift. I am not familiure with the 60s autos and I would guess seeing as they made them for so long their would be a few different boxes I would only consider an auto if it was from a later model with an overdrive and tourqe converter lockup in overdrive I would stay away from the older style 3 speed slushboxes I would guess that even in a late model auto in a 60s would not be a patch on the latest autos so keep that in mind. Autos can be very dear to rebuild so
check out its condition
well ( smooth shifts, no delays when going from r to d then back again good transmission fluid colour etc) people will tell you they are no good going down severly steep hills coz it is their only downfall but ask yourself when was the last time you actually had to go down a
hill so steep that engine braking was essential? oh! and if you will be towing (heavy loads) you will need to consider a transmission cooler
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Apr 30, 2004 at 12:12
Friday, Apr 30, 2004 at 12:12
Good point Davoe, they probally are nothing on the electronic jobby I use, it snaps gears fast and smooth, it's quite amazing. The 60's I imagine would be the ol' hydrolic type. I new someone (an old customer of
mine) who blew his 60 series sahara box and it cost him $3500. Mind you it had down over 400,000k's and was towing a heavy offroad trailer through tracks when it died. I spoe you can't complain about that too much.
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Follow Up By: Davoe - Friday, Apr 30, 2004 at 12:48
Friday, Apr 30, 2004 at 12:48
Jeff M
My only experiences with autos have been with cars and with the old style slushboxes (valiants and holdens) which were real power stealers and fuel users and later "next generation" (89 camry and 86 skyline) the camry didnt seem to appreciate the auto but the skyline was very good I understand the latest autos are better again and everyone raves about them in 4wd however it just doesnt seem right to me ( I also think a decent 4by should have leaf springs although this is changing after taking the moorinie loop road last year:)) I also think that while an auto may make things easier they are not significantly better than a properly driven manual.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Apr 30, 2004 at 12:54
Friday, Apr 30, 2004 at 12:54
Just how I "used" to think! ;-)
The Tojo auto in the surf almost illiminates noticable turbo lag for me also as it let's the motor rev freely up to about 1700rpms before loading it with all the load on take off, makes the thing take off like it's got a scorpian down it's trowsers!
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Follow Up By: Davoe - Friday, Apr 30, 2004 at 13:07
Friday, Apr 30, 2004 at 13:07
yea heard they were good for turbos - never driven a turbo vehicle the bosses wouldnt believe me that I could work more efficiently if i had more powere to get up the ramp out of the pit. however if I replaced my 2h in my l/c camper with one of those latest 4.2 td intercooled jobbies I might actually get to pull the skin off that rice pudding
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Apr 30, 2004 at 13:12
Friday, Apr 30, 2004 at 13:12
This is not a dig from a tojo guy to nissan owners, just an observation. I drive a 3.0Td Patrol auto for work. It's deffinatally got more power than the old surfer as it can still just beat me in a stand still take off and it's heaps heavier, however the auto in that does'nt work nearly as
well as the surfer's. There is still a heap of lag when you plant your foot to when it actually starts to pull. Don't know why... But those 3.0td motors (apart from the problems) are pretty insaine, they really do make you have to work your neck muscles when it pulls.
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