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Submitted: Friday, May 14, 2004 at 20:53
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Has any of the 3 litre patrol owners found a way to fit a hand throttle to the drive by wire throttle as its b annoynng trying to control your right boot in low range first gear on rough terrain. Thought about tracing the switch on the gearbox for the idle up (cold start) At least you would be able to keep a constant 1000 rpm?
cheers Paul
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 22:34

Friday, May 14, 2004 at 22:34
Hi Gerk,

Ever since I installed the Dtronic, i haven't had the same sort of throttle surge. Its still sensitive, but not a problem like before. Plus there is heaps more torque at idle (and above) so you don't need to use the throttle the same way as before.

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Follow Up By: gamefish - Sunday, Jun 06, 2004 at 19:24

Sunday, Jun 06, 2004 at 19:24
Capt.
I have read the Dtronic website and it all sounds good. How has the Dtronic performed for you? Have you noticed the increase in power...what about torque? They also reckon it saves you fuel...any comments?
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Sunday, Jun 06, 2004 at 21:01

Sunday, Jun 06, 2004 at 21:01
Hi Gerk,

Have I noticed the increase in power - YES !!! It basically lifts the power right across the rev range, not peaky or anything. But the best bit is that you now have you old maximum torque of 354Nm at ~1250rpm. And new max torque of 420Nm is at 2000rpm. Basically it takes away the lack of low end torque.

On the freeway grind in the morning, I use 3rd gear down to 900rpm wheras before it would not pull that low easily. Makes for a lot less gear changes.

The other noticeable difference was that before in low range, I could not back my van up my drive without stalling or using the accelorator (or slipping the clutch). Now it simple idles up in low range when backing my van in. Worth it just on clutch life here.

As for fuel economy, it is the same or better. I average 11.7 l/100kms on the freeway grind to work and 15.7 l/100kms when towing my 1.6T offroad van at 100 km/hr. The very odd occasion of country cruising without the van would result in ~10.5 l/100kms. I suppose if you did not use the power you would get better fuel economy than before, but it definetly doesn't use more fuel while driving normally.

And I don't have a problem with throttle surge in low range. Its still sensitive, but very easily controlled in comparison. Also, I think why your switch didn't work is that their is a cutout on the idle up when in gear and the clutch is out. Try it with the idle up switch and you will see what I mean. i also think its tied into the engine temp as after a while it simply doesn't work.

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Reply By: Member - Cruisin (QLD) - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 22:35

Friday, May 14, 2004 at 22:35
I am also interested in having an idle up Gerk, I have an LC-100 and in the manual some models have the idle up switch pictured. Would be a cool feature for the slow going. Mines an auto. Will watch your post with interest.

Cheers Cruisin
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Follow Up By: Gerk - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 10:41

Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 10:41
Hi Cruisin I used to be a member of the 80 series on line can't remember the www but I presume its still there somewhere there were losts of simple and easy thinks to do to improve the 80 series. like disconnect auto diff lock in low range, disconnect abs
I would think there would be something similar for the 100 series in www somewhere I'll make a call to a member of the 80 series see if he knows anything.
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Follow Up By: Gerk - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 14:03

Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 14:03
Have a look at wwwlcool.org/index.html 100 series still to come but you can email the group and ask the question cheers Paul
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Follow Up By: Member - Cruisin (QLD) - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 21:24

Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 21:24
Thanks for the info Gerk
I will follow it up, much appreciated

Cheers Cruisin
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Reply By: Member Eric - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 06:27

Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 06:27
Have you guys thought of the air con idle up . Not sure ifthis is fisible , but activate the air con idle up withought turning on the air con. Through a swich , but wont work if air con is on of course

If you dont have cruise , them fit a hand throttle to the cruise lever on your throttle body . If you have cruise , you will have to weld a second cable bracket , get on of any wrecker , dosnt need to be off s GU
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Follow Up By: Gerk - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 20:44

Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 20:44
Got bored today so went looking for the idle up that is opperated by the heat switch on the dash. The plug located at the back of the MANUAL gearbox near the top drivers side and its BLACK in colour on my series 3. There is a grey one in the same area but thats not the one. Push the indent in on the side of the plug to pull the 2 halves apart. Put a jumper wire across the 2 terminals on the female side.(Go's back to idle up switch/curcuit) (Male side go's to the gearbox) Suggest push in some stirene foam in the plug ends then small amount of silicon to seal it up and beable to get it apart if needed at a later date.
The Patrol will now idle up in gear to 1200rpm and stay there with or without the air turned on. Still to try it out on the road or rough track but I'm fairly confident it will work a treat. Just to cover my own bum do this at your own RISK. cheers Paul.
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Follow Up By: Gerk - Sunday, May 16, 2004 at 16:15

Sunday, May 16, 2004 at 16:15
Tried It on the road but has lost POWER Asume that the glow plugs are in the same circuit so have repluged and back to STD, Bugger cheers Paul
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Reply By: fourstall2000 - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 09:53

Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 09:53
There are previous forum notes on this matter if you search back.
Basically the electronics are difficult to modify due to the dual output from the accelerator pot.
If you are really keen a mechanical or cable operated overide on the pedal is the most logical method.
I have attached some ribbed rubber sheet to the side panel next to the pedal, and can now use this to stop my shoe slipping away,works well.
Regards
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Follow Up By: Gerk - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 10:26

Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 10:26
Thanks again guys I'm fitting a lokka next Wednesday so will have a look for the idle up switch/plug on the gearbox. Hopefully its external while its on the hoist. cheers Paul
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