Winching
Submitted: Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 09:52
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Rosco - Bris.
One for those with experience in operating power
winches.
Are there any hard and fast rules with regard to driving whilst operating the winch??
I have been given to believe it should be avoided as a sudden loss of traction may overload the winch and cable, due to the sudden whack.
However I have watched videos where the vehicle is driven at the same time, obviously to reduce the load on the winch.
It would seem to me it depends upon the individual situation. I now have a leccie job hanging off the front of the Fender, but as yet have not had occasion to use it in anger.
We may need it on our forthcoming trip to FNQ, so any advice in this regard will be
well received.
Cheers and ta
Reply By: Willem - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 11:17
Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 11:17
Rosco me old son,
Just a commonsense approach is needed when winching. You can help the winch along with traction(if any) but you must be careful not to get ahead of the winch. So if you feel you need to help the winch along I would go for Low Range 1st gear as a helper. It depends on what sort of situation you have got yourself in to.
It also helps if you make use of your snatchblock in most winching operations.
Remember that the winch is there for your safety NOT for some other person who has got themselves in to trouble. I have seen quite a few
winches damaged by trying to winch others out of their predicament and you have to carry the can. It depends on the situation. If it is a matter of life and death, then yes, by all means help out.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member Colin - NSW Bungendore - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 13:47
Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 13:47
Hi Willem
Good advice.
But what do you do when you're stuck in an area like the where your Rig photo is ??
We bogged the work Troopie out from
Marble Bar - had the big Warn winch fitted - but Damm - nothing to winch to, no trees just acres of wet 'cement' - BUGGER !!!
After lots of digging and jacking and moving huge rocks to make a winch point we got the 'monster' out 5 hours later - in the dark by then too!
Broke the side guide rollers off because the winch point was off centre!
'As useless as tits on a bull'
Personally I would save the money and all that extra weight.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike H (VIC) - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 15:09
Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 15:09
Hi Colin, if I travel on my own I never go without 3 or 4 starpickets.
I know, it's more extra weight, but got me out of a few bogholes over the years.
Mike
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (VIC) - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 17:21
Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 17:21
Colin:
the answer for being stuck in a place with nothing to hitch your winch to ia a land anchor..... i got
mine from ARB... haven't had to use it yet but it's there if necessary, a great bit of equipment actually ...
steve
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Sunday, May 16, 2004 at 08:52
Sunday, May 16, 2004 at 08:52
The biggest reason for not driving while winching is for the same reason you should never pull a vehicle by its winch cable. You will bend the shaft that the drum rotates on which will eventually lead to winch failure.
Any sudden jerks will also destroy the planetry gears which will also render the winch unuseable.
If you must use the vehicles winch cable to tow it use a Chicago clamp to attach the cable to a recovery point removing the strain from the winch itself.
While I have driven my vehicle when winching myself it is done very carefully to avoid jerking and in a manual will usually require riding the clutch to control the forward motion and avoid jerking.
If using my winch to recover another vehicle I avoid having them drive as they do not usually understand the need to avoid sudden load changes on the cable and also it is not their equipment being used so they do not use due care.
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Follow Up By: GaryW - Monday, May 17, 2004 at 08:32
Monday, May 17, 2004 at 08:32
Love the Humvee!
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Sunday, May 16, 2004 at 18:53
Sunday, May 16, 2004 at 18:53
Rosco,
I have only just got
home from another
driver training course. We hade 9 all wheel drive vehicles this time and the story is the same, If you are winiching you are not driving, and if you are driving you are not winiching.
The other post have said that extra strain would be placed on the winch if the vehicled slipped bacc with the cable attached. Most of the time the vehicle would only have to be moved a short distance. The use of a snatch block or two would take the strain off the winch, so will a little road building if possible.
Next week I will be doing
driver training again and the story wil be the same for the Camper trailer drivers when we talk about winiching.
Wayne
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Reply By: Member Eric - Sunday, May 16, 2004 at 21:17
Sunday, May 16, 2004 at 21:17
This is ok in the perfect recovery , When your up to your bumper s in mud , you need all the help you can get . We had a GQ stuck hard on Saturday at Gembrook , if we didnt keep the GQ 's tyres turning it was never going to come out . As I said , its all experience . No one said to rev the ringger out of your car , just a gentle movement forward listening to the winch work , you can tell if its loaded or not .
Anyway I am sure Rosco will get out there and be a champ in no time ,
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