Dealers and trying to buy a new GU Patrol

Submitted: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 12:30
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Hi to all on the forum,

Just wondered if anyone of late has had much to do with and/or knows of anyone who has been to Nissan looking for a new fourby and if they had much luck in screwing the price down on a new GU TDI 3.0L or 4.2 TDI??? Been to 4 different dealerships and not one wants to budge much at all. Does anyone know how much the mark up is on a new vehicle of any breed??? Any experience from different vehicle owners of any breed from different dealers would be appreciated so that I may put some of my hard earned dollars towards accessories!!!

Cheers one and all, look forward to your comments.

Trol.
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Reply By: brian - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 12:34

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 12:34
Hi Trol,i bought my current patrol by posting details of what i wanted on internet basically the dealers then had to tender their best price ended up over $8000 cheaper than local dealer offered.
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Follow Up By: Trol - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:21

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:21
Hi Brian,

Now that is impressive. I'd love to find out more details if you could pop them over via email. If you can, please email me at collections@demandingdebt.com.au

Cheers

Trol.
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Reply By: Mrs Diamond - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 12:41

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 12:41
what state are you in ?
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Bris. - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:04

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:04
Mental or physical??
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Follow Up By: Trol - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:22

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:22
Mrs Diamond,

I'm in QLD but will travel a few k's to get a good deal...

Cheers

Trol.
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Reply By: flappan - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:06

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:06
I only bought a 2nd Hand GU , but a couple of tricks I was told about.

Forget City Dealers look to the Country FAR more likely to get better deals.

Use a pricing service. Like Union Shopper etc. Let them do the mucking around for you.

Use a proffessional service. I haven't used one, but my BIL did some time ago. Was worth his time (sorry , not sure on fees though).
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Follow Up By: Trol - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:25

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:25
Flappan,

Thanks mate...

Cheers

Trol.
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Reply By: Member - TonyG (NSW) - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:07

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:07
Hi Trol,

I purchased a 3.0TD Patrol in March.

I found that Nissan had no factory bonuses they were offering at the time, so it was down to who could offer the biggest fleet discount.

Mine was purchased in a company name.

I found the best I could get was approx a 7K discount.

Email me if you would like more specific details at tonygrey60@hotmail.com

Thanks

Tony G
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Follow Up By: Trol - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:23

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:23
Tony G,

Have sent email.

Cheers

Trol.
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Reply By: fozzy - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:11

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:11
bought new cruiser all up incl on rd,dealer del and lux car taxes etc for 6k less than rec retail( plus on rd ,taxes etc)so in fact saved closer to 10k all up so shop around and play one off the other but be prepared to buy when the deals right.
worth few weekends going through all the crap you have to put up with to save big $$$
if in melb good nissan dealer?salesman is david at lilydale nissan
get your price and then go to next dealer and drop previous price by say 1000-1500 and see if they can match it. if they can then see if they can better it and by how much. then go to next dealer and see if they can match next price and better it and so forth. after a couple of trys and they cant better then possibly have realistic low price.
walk away from saelspeople who run around giving you a price-they are wasting your time.
also towards end of month can sometimes get really good price if they are just off making nissans target and getting their kickbacks etc
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Follow Up By: Trol - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:26

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:26
Fozzy,

I'll have to set some time aside to have a go at that...

Thanks for your input.

cheers

trol.
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Follow Up By: Cammo - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 15:10

Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 15:10
Fozzy

I am in a similar boat (i.e. I am in the market for new cruiser). Can you please tell me what you got and where (if you don't mind).

Thanks
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Follow Up By: Michael - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 22:02

Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 22:02
Hey Fozzy, you are correct, get to daeler on the last 2-3 days of the month, it makes a hugeeeeeeeee difference to the bottom line. Michael
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Follow Up By: fozzy - Friday, May 21, 2004 at 07:10

Friday, May 21, 2004 at 07:10
cammo
67k on rd drive away incl transfer of plates,lux car tax,rego,stamp duty,dealer delivery etc including headlight covers,bonnet prot,side weathershields no more to pay.
2004 t/d 100 series
brighton toyota vic
never dreamed of buying new car before but this is a keeper
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:23

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:23
Put it to tender straight to the dealer principals, you can usually get close to 10% off list either by dropping the standard price or getting extras fitted at discount. Be prepared to be flexible on colour etc. and you can get really good deals on stock already in the yard, especially if you take a few grand cash to throw straight down. Money talks b/s walks..
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Reply By: madcow - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:25

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:25
I shopped around for my first GU 4.2 TDand found the best deal in Melbourne and saved $8000. Did the same last year (4.2 TDI) and our local dealer came good with the goods. Threw in BFG all terrains, headlight, bonnet protector and the towbar, bullbar and driving lights at no charge. ( well it's built into the price isn't it). They were good to deal with once they new I was serious and had no trade in. If there is no trade you can get a lott better deal and you should point that out to them
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Follow Up By: Trol - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:39

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:39
madcow,

Will have trade, did you hear that changes things?
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Follow Up By: madcow - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 15:40

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 15:40
Without a trade they are accepting "less risk, problems and paperwork" associated with a trade in. If you can sell it privately and talk "no trade" you should get a better response from them. I believe there is a "margin" in the price of a new car to allow for a trade in. Good luck!
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:38

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:38
Any reason you are buying new?

Remembering that the minute the rego plates go on that 'new' car in your name, you are losing $5000 at least. Meaning if you drove it round the block, took it back, you would lose $5000 at least.

Buy a fairly new second hand 4.2 and save a fortune $10k+ probably, and that buys a lot of accessories.
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 17:01

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 17:01
I agree with ^^^^^^^ Truckster on this one. Some really great buys out there for almost new cars. Well worth thinking about, also if time allows you, you will get more for your old acr if yous ell it private, sometimes the difference will be what you have to pay for stamp duty on the one you buy.
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Follow Up By: Trol - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 08:40

Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 08:40
Hi cokeaddict,

You do have a point, but there's just something about driving away in a new truck, and at least you don't have any concerns about it's past history...

Buying the car through a business, so stamp duties and onroads don't worry me so much as it's a tax deduction, but you are right about selling privately, will always get a couple of thousand more if patient...

Cheers mate,

Trol.
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Reply By: srowlandson - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:46

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:46
I got an excellent price on my GU back in 2000, and used the services of Discount New Cars (www.discountnewcars.com.au)

I bought the prado from Geelong, and just kept niggling until they buckled and gave it to me for the price i wanted.

Steve

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Follow Up By: Trol - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:32

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:32
Hi srowlandson,

Just had a look on the site, not bad...not bad at all! Instant discount.

Thanks for your help!

Trol.
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Reply By: joshinthecity - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:55

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:55
$47600 drive away, with bar, lights, towbar from Nissan at Sutherland.
3.0 5-speed ST. 2003 mod, in 2003.

Couldn't be happier....

Josh.
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Follow Up By: Trol - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:37

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:37
joshinthecity,

And I have noticed they have the deal going at the moment with free bullbar, lights and towbar allegedly worth $2300...

Good price for the ST!!!

Thanks mate,

Trol.
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Reply By: Member -Bob & Lex (Sydney) - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 17:08

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 17:08
A few posts ago their were nissans at the gov auctions in Qld , low k's so have a look.
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Reply By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 19:54

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 19:54
A mate of mine has been looking at buying a new V8 100 and 3 different dealers in Adelaide gave similar prices, his son works in outback and called dealer x in country NSW who supply a lot of bush 4bys and the exact same car was $10,000 cheaper, so he went back to Adelaide dealers and they dropped $10,000 of the price just like that .
I like the Idea of tendering as above just make up a sheet with all requirements and fax to every dealer for a 1000 ks and see what happens, will cost bugger all and the savings might be great.
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Follow Up By: Trol - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 08:48

Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 08:48
Pesty,

Mate, I'm a little keen on getting a few moer details, which state etc and how to do it woe to go...10k is quite a saving...and would only cost around 400 bucks to get it back from there with 0k's.

Send me an email if you want or I can send you one if you give me your address...

cheers mate,

Trol.
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Reply By: howie - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 01:14

Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 01:14
get a price from a firm like nbm fleetcare in w.a.
they were $7000 cheaper than dealers. took my price to dealer and they dropped the price by $7100 but i told them to stick it ( i hate them).
do not sign any 'contract to buy' forms to get a price from dealers, this is a legal doc, they won't tell you this.
ah, the great lines from salesmen, "i'll have to consult with my boss", "if you sign today........".
good luck
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Follow Up By: Trol - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 08:38

Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 08:38
Hi Howie,

yeah, had a couple of those already...if i give you a great price today, how about you leave a deposit, sign this form, and if you change your mind, you can have your money back...no questions asked...YEAH RIGHT!

I work in the area of law and know all of their dirty tricks...like the idea of going to the country for a price, at least then I'd get to drive my new truck for a couple of k's getting the feel for it!

Cheers mate,

Trol.
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Reply By: Steve Mc - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 16:11

Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 16:11
Hi Trol

I paid $56500 (no trade) GST Inc at Xmas 03 for Gu 4.2TDi ST Wagon free B/bar T/bar headlight covers

Cheers Steve
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Follow Up By: JamieMac - Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 16:17

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 16:17
Steve

where was this at? was it drive away?

I am looking at a new one(2004 but same model as yours). I have got it down to $57500. This includes:

Safety Pack
Bull bar
tow bar
driving lights
Safari Snorkle
cargo barrier
headlight protectors
bonnet protector
weather shield
roof bars
carpet mats

not sure I can screw too much more out of them but I might give th country dealers a go. Funny I live in the country and my local dealer wont entertain below $60,000 so i am getting the best prices in Sydney.

It is a real hassel with all the variations from dealer to dealer, wish they would give a dinkum best price up front and cut out the crap.

Jamie
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Reply By: Steve Mc - Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 19:10

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 19:10
Hi Jamie Sounds like you have good deal we paid $56,500 drive away no safety pack, nissan alloy bar(YUCK) doesn't go well with the skippys, put a ARB steel bar on instead headlight covers,weathershield. We bought the car from McRae White Nissan wodonga ask for Gary Dundas tell him you were talkling to Steve McNamara from Temora. He is last of the good salesmen no pressure to sign ,throws the keys at me to drive anything I want as long I bring it back in one piece.Even if I paid a little bit more I dont care as long as don't have to put up with the, can we do a deal today crap sign here now, BS BS BS.
Anyway we are rapt with car only problem so far the cruise control is surging on undulating roads, Nissan are working on the problem ,3-6mths they say as the 4.8s had the same problem. Its done 22000ks now & is starting to have a go & fuel economy is improving.
Best of Luck Steve
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Follow Up By: JamieMac - Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 22:48

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 22:48
Thanks for the feedback Steve

I am getting a Nissan steel bubar already which I believe is same as ARB one. Looks the same to me anyway. Am now convinced I will be the proud owner of the next white vehicle available.

How bad is the surge, only an annoying niggle I hope. Rekon it would be big news if it was dangerous problem! Have you herad of many more problems with the cruise or any other part of the GU 4.2?

Wish dealers were as handy with the test drives around hear, might have to ring Wadonga.

What economy have you been getting up till now? Takes a while for the 4.2 to run in I guess.

Jamie
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