Buying another 4x4 - need advice

Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 17, 2015 at 23:16
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Hi All,

Looking at buying another 4x4 and getting rid of my 2.8 patrol. Need more grunt for towing and the fuel economy is terrible.

Budget is about 30k and looking at a patrol or landcruiser wagon.

Anyone have any suggestions? Was looking at the 76 series but haven't heard too much about them. Any suggestions or advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Shaun
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Reply By: TomH - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2015 at 09:47

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2015 at 09:47
Look around for a 100ser with the 1HD FTE motor and the 5 spd box Some of them are going for around that these days. I used to get 17.5Lper 100km towing 3000kg at 90kph in 4th
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:18

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:18
Hi Shaun

From your post I don't see enough of what is important to you to advise.

E.G. I could never consider a 76 series or Prado's because of their high C of G , but others put less value on this.

What TomH suggests is a good choice and 2 of my friends have gone this way in last year although some of them are up to $60k.

Why not tick all the boxes with one hit and get a 4800 manual/auto petrol patrol (made from 2002 to 2010).

If fuel cost is your issue then use gas as all the diesel versions have insufficent power if towing a heavy load.
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:19

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:19
Ditto to Tom's suggestion - you'd be more than happy with a good 100 series - the only snag is they are much respected and hold value really well, but if time is on your side you should find a nice one in your $ range. The 1HD-FTE produces 151kw which would be a 50% jump for you over the Nissan 2.8L.......and the 5 speed auto would be a winner for towing. Fuel consumption ? If you take it quite easy overall, you can reliably average the figure Tom mentions.
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Reply By: Flexn - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2015 at 23:42

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2015 at 23:42
I would like a 100 series but most of them have 250k kms on or more.

If it was diesel I wanted a turbo diesel. I have heard the 76 series have a decent motor and power but just lack interior and are very basic.

4.8 patrol could work I guess, how many kms do you get out of a tank of them? Currently I only get 500kms from my 2.8 patrol which is terrible.

I do like patrols but the 3.0 litre is just not ideal in my opinion. They are too heavy to have a 3.0 in them. Not overally familiar with cruisers and haven't seen many decent ones for sale.
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Follow Up By: Flexn - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2015 at 23:43

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2015 at 23:43
By the way I changed my username
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Nov 19, 2015 at 09:35

Thursday, Nov 19, 2015 at 09:35
The 4800 use a 1/3 more fuel than equivalent diesel like 100 series Flex , I have a couple and manual used 16.5lt/100km over 200,000km whereis my auto version uses about 18 lt/100km.
This is without towing.

As I have aftermarket tanks I can do 1400km on touring run and have been able to do all main stuff from Canning to Full Madigan line so range is no issue.

What really counts is cost over the life of the vehicle and without going into detail the GU 4800 have cost less than most equivalent diesel mainly because fuel represents less than 20% of true running cost of a car in my senario and thats without going for gas.

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Reply By: shanegu6 - Thursday, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:12

Thursday, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:12
Go the 100 series Shaun. I've had both the patrol and Landcruiser. More room and comfortable than the GU, if you are towing long distances.
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Reply By: Senrab1952 - Thursday, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:54

Thursday, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:54
Hello Shaun
If you have the $$$$$$$ buy a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Plenty of grunt and excellent fuel economy. A great towing vehicle.

Cheers
Ken
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Nov 19, 2015 at 17:50

Thursday, Nov 19, 2015 at 17:50
Ken, In terms of reliability you cannot compare a Jeep vs a Landcruiser.I don't think anyone would dispute this.
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Thursday, Nov 19, 2015 at 20:40

Thursday, Nov 19, 2015 at 20:40
I've had a GC for over 6 years and 220k. It's been a good car and I have really given it a hiding on most of the roughest 4wd tracks around. I really like it, it's been a daily driver too. If anyone is considering a Jeep, my recommendation is diesel. Service costs aren't noticably higher, the fuel economy is single digits and the torque usually 400+nm. The cheaper purchase price suits me too, everyone keep bagging them so it might keep the prices lower for my next one. Go the youtube lemon Jeep guy! :-)

By the way, you could get a Land Rover D3 for that money too. They are a nice drive compared to most Jap cars but you have to be game enough to take the plunge. :-) The majority of owners love them and buy another one.
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Reply By: Drew - Karratha - Friday, Nov 20, 2015 at 20:50

Friday, Nov 20, 2015 at 20:50
G'day Shaun, this is very left-field, and probably won't suit, but what about a factory TD 60 series Cruiser? I had a 100 series TD (4 speed) that I loved, but while a couple of unexpected 'issues' we're getting fixed (torque converter and inj pump) I did up a $500 60 series 2h diesel, and loved driving it so much I sold the 100 once it was fixed. I have since sold the 60 and splashed out $3300 on a 1988 factory TD HJ61 that I love driving even more! I get 10.5L/100, and there is bugger all servicing costs as well as being very reliable with very limited electrics.... GTurbo have a bolt-on turbo for it that increases power to a silly level if anyone is interested in going that way (I am considering it...) anyway, another option to consider (and probably 20k in the bank for you) Drew
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