Cable ties

Submitted: Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 20:05
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Once upon a time the most common litter at a bush camp site was ring pulls or bottle tops. I've just spent three weeks camping along both sides the Mighty Murray River and couldn't believe the number of cut cable ties on the ground at used camp sites. The most annoying thing was they had been cut too close to the clip end so were non recyclable....... sigh, guess I'll have just have to keep buying them.

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Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 20:59

Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 20:59
Cable ties are nylon and do not break down so they will be there forever.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 21:22

Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 21:22
Try leaving one out in the sun and see how long they last.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 21:26

Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 21:26
Only some are UV stable others go brittle and break off quite easily after a short while
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Follow Up By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 07:45

Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 07:45
I have just been through Ireland and Scotland and Cable tie litter is far worse than Australia.
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Follow Up By: Slow one - Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 08:40

Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 08:40
They may break and degrade but they don't go away. I know of some that are exposed to the full sun all day, holding cables up a vertical rise and they are now 20 years old, some have started to break but they are definitely not going away.

Still look like cable ties, still taste like cable ties, but don't work like cable ties anymore.
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Reply By: OBJ - Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 21:09

Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 21:09
You can buy reuseable cable ties. Try eBay. I buy them now and they are a great piece of gear.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 10:27

Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 10:27
Yep, have a small stock of them and have reused some a hundred times.

Not sure why so many are using them camping ? Is it the backpacker type who aren't setup properly for camping ? What are they using them for ?
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Follow Up By: Gramps - Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 17:46

Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 17:46
Easier than rope for tying down tarps :)
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 22:37

Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 22:37
Yeh ya can buy reusable cable ties but they are much more expensive that the standard type ...... and those who just throw them on the ground don't care about reuse.

I use hundreds of cable ties in my work ....I buy them by the thousand....... it has always irriated me, how wastefull they are.

Most times when nylon cable ties are used as intended and for permanent use between 50 and 90% of the product purchased is thrown away & there is no practical way to recycle the waste.

The humbe cable tie has become very cheap and very popular for a whole pile of uses outside of its original design .......... it seems that many who use them are looking for the speed and convienience ...... they are so concrened with the speed that they can not be bothered picking up either cut ties or trimmed tails ...... seems they expect someone else to pick up their rubbish.

When I work with cable ties ( or when I work generally) I have a rubbish bucket at my feet and the trimmed tails and cut ties go striaght into the bin ...... it is so much less effort than cleaning up later ..... but so many people don't plan that far ahead.

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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Sunday, Dec 06, 2015 at 10:12

Sunday, Dec 06, 2015 at 10:12
Cable ties, the new disposable nappy.
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Reply By: Jackolux - Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 17:30

Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 17:30
Cable ties starting to take over from cigarette butts
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue M - Saturday, Dec 05, 2015 at 02:19

Saturday, Dec 05, 2015 at 02:19
If there was no cigarette butts laying around with them, you would have to say it was a non smoker that left them behind. Counts me out. :-)

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Reply By: Shaker - Saturday, Dec 05, 2015 at 08:19

Saturday, Dec 05, 2015 at 08:19
I picked up over 30 bread bag clips at a camp site recently. No excuse to drop these or cable ties on the ground!

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Follow Up By: mike39 - Sunday, Dec 06, 2015 at 09:29

Sunday, Dec 06, 2015 at 09:29
I reckon cable ties, bread tags and cigarette butts have a "radio active" component.
Seem to have an indefinite "half life" very similar.
And nearly always attracted to, and found around a vacated but still smouldering camp fire with baked bean tins and beer cans among the ashes
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Follow Up By: Member - Robert1660 - Sunday, Dec 06, 2015 at 11:55

Sunday, Dec 06, 2015 at 11:55
Hi Guys,
Cable ties, bread bag clips, cigarette butts the list goes on. However, apart from the proliferation of rubbish in general the proliferation of toilet paper, or more to the point tissues being used for that purpose is a massive issue. Everywhere we go we find this to be a very unpleasant aspect. I think there is not a roadside stop that we have visited that has not suffered from this. Caroline Pool camping area in WA was particularly bad as was Coongie Lakes in SA. I recall at Coongie Lakes spending time burying other people's toilet paper. A great camping area ruined by thoughtless people.
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Follow Up By: mike39 - Sunday, Dec 06, 2015 at 13:51

Sunday, Dec 06, 2015 at 13:51
We know what you mean by those dreaded "sorbent flowers"
Not just the rest areas on the great northern highway but Nullabor too.

Have often sharpened the end of a stick, gone around spearing them into a lump on the end of the stick, pouring a bit of generator petrol oven them, then a match.

Even worse are disposable nappies, I saw one the other day discarded in our local Woolies car park. Bloody disgusting.
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