Pop up Pooper
Submitted: Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 06:54
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Kilcowera Station Stay
Can anyone please tell me if these things are useful? If you use it once to do the busuness - can you just put it up a few hours or a day later and use it again? How often do you need to change the bags? We are considering our options of
what to take to the big red bash next year and think this may be very handy for such a trip. Thanks Toni PS it's on special in the Exploroz
shop!
Reply By: Crusier 91 - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 07:22
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 07:22
Depends how many will use it in a day. If it was me, I'd change after every use.
I had a portable fold up for years until I saw the light and purchased a port a potti. I should off purchased it years ago.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 08:06
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 08:06
Same here Cruiser. We don't tow so it sits in the back of the car in a plastic box and is tied down to the top of the drawer set. At least we know it is cleaned properly. There is a drop point just on the Big Red side of
Birdsville. No smells and no spills. Even on the roughest high country tracks and mountains (like Mt Walker and Mt Airlie). A pop up ensuite gives it privacy when needed.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:37
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:37
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These blokes aren't you two, cruiser and vk ???
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Warning, may make those of you with weak stomachs feel a little queezy !!
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:43
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:43
Ours doesn't even stink. It's simply a mind over matter thing. You just do it. These blokes obviously not had kids or bludge on the missus and let her do all the crappy (sic) stuff. Sooks!!!
Phil
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:46
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:46
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Lol, ou're right about the 'not had kids' part I reckon :)
That and a missus that is sick a lot during preg, and I cleaned up a few things I never wish to ever again.
I love the way their spouses are laughing in the background through that, but it does make me feel a bit off just watching them go through that.
The
dump point smell might be an issue ? Haven't ever had to use one.
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Follow Up By: Hoyks - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:42
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:42
I worked as a plumbers laborer, worked as a cleaner in a nursing
home, worked as a nurses aid wiping bums in a nursing
home and then had 2 kids. It would have to be bad to tip me over the edge....
my wife on the other hand would be going out in sympathy with those blokes, and she would still be 50m away in the car.
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Follow Up By: Hoyks - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:44
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:44
On a side note, every
dump point I have been to still has the garden hose attached.
I bet its because the local kids don't want to cut that one down to make bongs.
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Follow Up By: Life Member-Doug T NSW - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:54
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:54
Bugger you Les, I got achin' sides and tears from laughing....
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Follow Up By: Member - bbuzz (NSW) - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 12:03
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 12:03
Why is it GREEN and why is it smelly? I thought the whole idea of the system, was the ease of emptying and control of the smell.
I am reluctant to take the step and that video is not doing much to change my mind!
bill
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Follow Up By: Member - Young Nomads - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 14:50
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 14:50
Hi Bill.
The green is likely to be the chemical additive..it stinks so much by itself..we just use a bit of napisan (sodium percarbonate) and a couple of drops of eucalyptus oil in the "mix"...it is ok to use in septic systems..and avoid doing number 2's in it too!
We have a
toilet in the caravan, but are yet to need the porta thing.
Cheers
Robyn
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Reply By: mynance - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 08:07
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 08:07
Hi
Did you see the movie Wild Hogs?
You supposed to hang the bag in a tree so the bears don't get it.
Myles
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Reply By: Member - Odog - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 08:46
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 08:46
After traveling with a porta potti, won't leave
home without it.. Just to easy, and so convenient. Especially using the nappisan in it, works a treat.. Worth every cent.. Easy to empty and clean.. Best $120 we have spent.. Odog
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 09:14
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 09:14
Haven't used these pop up poopers Toni, but have been to BRB this year.
If you're staying there for the full time, then you may have to change bags, but depends how good the drying powder is too. If you did change bags, you could "double-bag" the full one, and take it into the
dump point at some stage. Some were doing that this year, and grabbing a shower while they were in
Birdsville.
As long as you have a pop-up ensuite, it shouldn't be too bad. Plenty of ensuites there this year, that's what I used, and it was much more comfortable than standing in line at the ports loos. :-)
Hope you enjoy it, but take plenty of warm clothes for the evening concerts!
Bob
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Reply By: Life Member-Doug T NSW - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 09:20
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 09:20
Oh yeh...after seeing this in the new letter today I was going to start a thread about it but seen this thread already running... I will make a comment about the text that made me smile...
(The wait is over! Pop-Up Pooper is back! This unique portable
toilet is the ideal solution in lots of scenarios and is both hygienic, environmentally friendly, and robust (rated to hold a 150 kg weight). :) :) :)
150 kg...wow that's a lot of sh**
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Follow Up By: Loddo48 - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 09:37
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 09:37
I have used the pop up now for over 12mths. use a lge garbage bag with kitty litter .use it then give it a twist to close the bag then it is ready to go again. when it is full remove and double bag and dispose of in the correct manner.
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Reply By: Hoyks - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:31
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:31
I bought a portable
toilet, best $80 I ever spent on camping gear, although the opening isn't that large. It can take a bit of forward planning and tucking to get all the relevant apertures in alignment.
It doesn't leak or smell and cleaning and dumping the contents is easy. The only thing is to leave the top tank empty when traveling or it warms up, the water expands and leaks out into the bowl and then can splash out into the vehicle.
Mine is in the back of a ute, so not that inconvenient.
If teaming it with a pop up en suite tent, watch the video and practice putting it away at
home so as not to look like an idiot when you are doing it with an audience. I put
mine up in the back yard; it took about 1 minute. Then packing it away....I read the instructions, did battle with it for 1/2 an hour and admitted defeat before throwing it in the shed in disgust. Google and a few youtube clips and it was all suddenly so easy! Now I can pack it away almost as quickly as it goes up.
Pack some sand pegs too, last thing you want is a willywilly sending your loaded portaloo and shower tent flying. Cleaning and emptying that might not be that easy.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:41
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:41
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Yes, when I went in to buy a pop up ensuite, I tried the destaging one for 5 mins, then said to the
young lass, if you can fold this up in 15 seconds I'll buy it.
Left the
shop some time later, she's still trying :)
Did go back and get it following week after seeing the Youtube vids.
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Follow Up By: gelatr - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:08
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:08
I did battle with one of these for 30 minutes at
Cactus Beach once.
Well and truely beaten by the mongrel I threw it in the back of the ute fully erected in disgust. The next time I went to use it it folded in 30 seconds. Unbelievable! Just make sure you hold your tongue right, the temperature is 23.6 degrees, and the wind is coming from the south west at 14.89 knots and you shouldn't have any problems
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:39
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:39
Needed a porta potti for a trip with the Boss(she'd just had both knees rebuilt) so bought an Oztrail in
Longreach. Does the job but, like yours Hoyks, there's a fair bit of .......err, fiddling to get everything aligned. :-)
Checked out the Thetfords @ Ray's in Townsville, and they are 50mm longer in the
seat. Reckon they'll be the go for the next trip in 2016.
Bob
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Follow Up By: Crusier 91 - Sunday, Dec 20, 2015 at 07:24
Sunday, Dec 20, 2015 at 07:24
Our first pop en suite was left on a beach for someone else to work out how to fold it up.
We have a new one now and I took a video of the sales guy folding it up on my phone, no problems now :)
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:03
Monday, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:03
I left Big Red Bash before daylight on morning after, so had done most of my packing the previous arvo. When it came to packing the ensuite, it became a spectator event! My neighbours stood around and watched, and with Mark offering support, it was left to Candice, his wife, to fold the thing up, while I scratched my head, thinking it'll never $@&7()#% fit.
Well, it did fit, but it hasn't been unpacked since!
Bob
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:25
Monday, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:25
Lol, I acutally broke one pole when using it the first time, sleeved it ok with a bit of ali tube.
Use it so little I have to do a little reminder with one of the youtube vids from time to time :)
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Reply By: Sigmund - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:53
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:53
Something similar is used by expeditions, school groups and field researchers in the bush. Called ezygonow which comes with a tripod
seat. Seems to work fine and is better than water/chemical-based loos when water is scarce.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 14:53
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 14:53
The full Ezigonow range can be seen at
Ezy Go Now
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Reply By: Member -Hilton Hillbillies - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:34
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:34
G'day all,
I know this is a little off track.
But I'm a little concerned about these bags.
I know they stay that they are bio-degradable, however most bags only bio-degrade if exposed to UV light from the sun or bio-degrade when they contact moisture.
If it is UV degradation, dump points don't have UV exsposure and if it is moisture what stops the bags breaking down through normal use.
I know a little about sewage treatment as I'm the Supervisor of a large 40+ Meg treatment plant and these things would be of great concern for our process.
I would greatly appreciate some info from someone with a better understanding of these things.
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Follow Up By: Kilcowera Station Stay - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:54
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:54
Very good point! After hearing about the flushable wipes that do not break down - I would be extremely hesitant about putting anything like this down the pipes. I would be popping into a town refuse site and tossing it in the right spot there. Cheers Toni
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Follow Up By: Member -Hilton Hillbillies - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 12:51
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 12:51
Hi Tony,
I'm not sure that refuse stations are the right place for this.
I know that our local landfill will not accept that sort of waste due to health regs.
They won't even take the treated bio-solids, grit/screening from the treatment plant.
I think port-a-potties are a much better idea and if you use the nappy-San type treatment instead of
toilet chemical it won't harm any
dump point even septic systems.
Good luck with what ever type you settle on.
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Follow Up By: Member -Hilton Hillbillies - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 12:57
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 12:57
Sorry Toni,
I had just replied to another post from a Tony.
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Reply By: Kilcowera Station Stay - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 14:38
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 14:38
This thread is going
places I had never imagined! But I think we'll get a porta potti and a tent thing and have a practice run here. ( at putting the tent thing up!!) Enough said. Cheers Toni
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 14:57
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 14:57
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Yes, who'd have thought such a subject would inspire such enthusiastic
feedback :)
Suppose there's been books written about the topic, "How to 'go' in the woods" was a popular read about outdoor
toilet practices some years ago.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 14:56
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 14:56
The advertising in the EO Newsletter states
"The bags are biodegradable so can be buried or disposed of in RV dump stations. As a last resort they can even be flushed through a normal
toilet. An amazing concept that works."
I think a lot of
dump point operators would be up in arms at this suggestion. Can Exploroz please provide more clarity about this aspect?
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 17:07
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 17:07
I think anything that puts more plastic into the waste system is a bad move, even if called degradable. The liquid systems seem to work
well if managed properly and the right ingredients are used.
Last year I watched a team clear a blockage in a sewer that passed under a bayside park. We were having a family picnic before they started. The majority of the material pulled out was plastic and lots of 'disposable' nappies. I asked one of the workers about it, after they had finished, and he said it was a common problem.
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Follow Up By: Member - wicket - Sunday, Dec 20, 2015 at 09:59
Sunday, Dec 20, 2015 at 09:59
many of these biodegradable bags are made from corn starch not plastic, no idea about the pooper bags though
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Follow Up By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:55
Sunday, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:55
wicket,
Did not know that. How long will the starch based bags hold wet things? What is the time to degrade?
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Follow Up By: Member - wicket - Sunday, Dec 20, 2015 at 16:27
Sunday, Dec 20, 2015 at 16:27
can't be too scientific about this but the bags we use for our composting scraps will break down over a couple of weeks in the compost bin and will hold wet scraps for at least a week, haven't tried actually filling them with liquid though , definitely not big enough for a pooper
toilet !
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Reply By: Life Member - Fred B (ex-NT) - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 17:25
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 17:25
I have tried a number of different types over the years, and the thetford porta-potti system is by far the best. A bit of nappisan and water and you are all set. And if it's a bit too low to get up from (knee problems etc) then it can be set on top of something to bring the height up a bit. I'll see if I can locate the plans for a simple ply setup (folds flat) that the porta-potti sits on safely. If I locate it, I'll post here later.
regards
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Follow Up By: Life Member - Fred B (ex-NT) - Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 17:46
Saturday, Dec 19, 2015 at 17:46
Still trying to find the plans, but see ThreadID: 89708 and click on the link "
home made stand" in the first reply of that thread. Also, for details and try
portable loo lift
regards
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