CSR - Permits

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Canning Stock Route

The Canning Stock Route is a long-distance remote stretch of track through the Gibson and Great Sandy Deserts. No longer in use as a stock route this is now a vehicular track allowing access to the

Canning Stock Route

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The Canning Stock Route is a long-distance remote stretch of track through the Gibson and Great Sandy Deserts. No longer in use as a stock route this is now a vehicular track allowing travel along

Farg05

I'm planning a CSR trip late June to Aug this year (2016), how long before the trip should I arrange permits?

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Reply By: Phil B (WA) - Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 19:56

Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 19:56

Why not do it now - its another job off the list.

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Follow Up By: Farg05 - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 20:34

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 20:34

Thanks Phil, I just need to be sure of dates first and of course any other requirement these permits might ask for. Cheers Fargo

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Reply By: Zippo - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 02:00

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 02:00

We tend to do it closer to departure date. Especially with the three-day WA permit, if your itinerary (if you have one) changes for whatever reason you need to get a fresh one to cover the revised dates as they don't like to change the dates on an already issued permit.

Also the WA system seemingly spits the request out for manual scrutiny if their pooter shows a permit issued covering a date in the preceding 12 months, and that can delay issue.

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 02:18

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 02:18

3 days to do CSR...hooly dooly. Nobody checks them anyway....just get one. Apply for permit as soon as you have dates....and go for it. If a significant change then maybe start again.

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Follow Up By: Zippo - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:36

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:36

Ah, ignore me. My mind was still on the other (GCR) thread. Slaps forehead!

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Follow Up By: B1B2 - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:57

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:57

Greg,
We did the CSR last year and bought 2 permits. Another participant left buying his until later, and found out there was a 3rd permit required for around the Wiluna area. (which I didn't bother with).

We had our permit checked at Durba Springs by Martu Martu boys. There was a big group of them, and they set up a screen and showed a movie on how desert people survived. I think they had seen it a few times as one of the boys in front of us played 'Angry Birds' on his phone until one of his mates told him off. Not bad blokes. They were only interested in the permit for the Durba Springs area.

Great Trip, Cheers,

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Follow Up By: B1B2 - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:01

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:01

Greg,
I should mention one of our group had a digeridoo and practiced most nights, he was getting pretty good. He gave the Martu boys a try and they couldn't do it. They did have some nice dance moves though, a bit like the Zorba the Greek one on youtube.

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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:32

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:32

B1B2, What are the three permits and what does each cover?

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Follow Up By: B1B2 - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 13:23

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 13:23

Peter,
The two I had were--

There are two permits required for the trip.
Central Desert Native Title Services Wells 5-15 and Wells 40-51 -------------------- cost $50

Permit 1 -- http://permits.canningstockroute.net.au/Default.aspx

Scroll to bottom of page 'accept condtions" and proceed

Permit 2 -- http://www.anfwdc.asn.au/canning_stock_route.php - Well 16-39 --- cost $110
Scroll to bottom of page

Apply for permit
tick box and buy permit - they also asked what long distance communication you would use. HF, Sat Phone etc.

That was March 2015

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Follow Up By: Farg05 - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 20:44

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 20:44

Thanks for the feedback everyone, all good stuff.

I'm across Permit one and two, what is the third one? Are the dates and timeframe discretionary or is there a maximum period these permits can be for?

And apart from communication info is there anything else required, like intended camping sites and timeframes?

Thanks again
Fargo

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Reply By: vk1dx - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 07:23

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 07:23

We applied early and gave a range of dates as shown below. Two passes needed.

Phil

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Reply By: Malcom M - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 08:00

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 08:00

Didn't know you needed a permit for the CSR...
Glad I read this.

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04

Mate, anywhere you go if it is on indiginous land you should check yourself to see if a permit is required. Don't rely on what it was "yester-year". That's why I posted a photo of our permit. Can't argue with that.

Things change as quickly as our pollies. I find that it is best to start by calling the Central Land Council and take it from there.

Have a good trip.

Phil

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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 14:30

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 14:30

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As Zippo said, if you need to change your travel dates, problems can arise.
We tried that a while back and the system would not accept a revision but required a new application. That threw up the signal that we already had a permit so it was required to submit the new request to the "Community Elders". We received the new permit several weeks later....after we had arrived home!

My philosophy now is to apply, nominating the best dates you can estimate then travel when you can. If challenged, I'll blather about 'poor eyesight', 'poor memory', 'poor intelligence', even get Roz to start crying. But not become aggressive.
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