lancruiser 76 series centre console fridge/cooler

Submitted: Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 22:07
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I'm wanting to install a centre console fridge and am confused by the research I've done so far. 50% of people seem to say don't bother they don't work and the other 50% say they are brilliant, trouble is I don't want to take out the original console to find the fridge has been a waste of time. I live in Perth so the summer days can be high 30c. Do I or don't I ? I have a 50 litre Waeco running in the rear and was thinking the 8 litre in the centre console . Would appreciate some honest feedback.
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Reply By: rumpig - Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 22:37

Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 22:37
Recently saw someone on another forum who has fitted the Waeco CDF15 into his 76 series in place of the console. Another person commented in that thread saying he'd done the same in his, and was the best mod he'd done. I'll try and find the thread and post a link to it...thinking it may have been on MySwag forum
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Follow Up By: Mark R1 - Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 22:39

Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 22:39
Thanks for that much appreciated
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Follow Up By: rumpig - Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 22:58

Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 22:58
Here you go
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Follow Up By: rumpig - Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 23:00

Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 23:00
Looks like I was wrong on the CDF15 thing, it's a CDF11
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Follow Up By: Mark R1 - Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 23:15

Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 23:15
Thats been a big help I was lead astray thinking the only coolers were the cheaper ones that only cooled to 20c below ambient temp and had no thermostat. Now I will be fitting the cdf 11 for sure.
One of my pet hates is stopping the 76 after passing so many cars on a holiday weekend trip to get a cold one out of the rear fridge and watching them all pass you by. Now I won't have to. Good tip on undoing seat bolts as well because I actually thought it would be too tight after I measured the gap between the seats. Cant wait to purchase and install. Once again thanks you have been a huge help.

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Reply By: The Bantam - Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 23:35

Sunday, Jan 10, 2016 at 23:35
There are two different types of center console fridges ..... real little fridges with compressors and Peltier effect semiconductor coolers.
The compressors fridges are capable of a much greater temperature gradient and are considerably more efficient. ( lower current drain for the result).

Oh and remember one thing ..... the floor of a vehicle is quite warm, so puttng some insulation under whatever fridge you install, will pick up some efficiency.

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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:57

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:57
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Hi Mark,

I tried using a Waeco TB-08 thermoelectric as a drinks cooler..... the small amount of temperature depression was an absolute waste of time. It went in the bin.

So I got a Waeco CDF-11 true compressor fridge but made a small modification. I put a couple of holes in the lid with a 70mm hole-saw to allow the drink flasks to be readily available whilst driving. The fridge lid can be opened with the flasks in place. See pic below.
The added benefit for us was that the Waeco could be run as a freezer at -10 and take some load off the fridge/freezer in the rear. As the drink flasks sit above the main chamber their temperature is a little above freezing, just nice to drink.
Now considered the best accessory we have.
Of course, the CDF-11 could be used unmodified as a drinks fridge at whatever temperature you wished.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 22:05

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 22:05
Allan does it effect the efficiency having the holes in the lid? I assume it would be like not closing the fridge properly?
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 23:43

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 23:43
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Well I guess it must affect the efficiency a bit Alby but it's not noticeable.
I fitted a felt seal that surrounds the flasks on the underside of the lid, It allows easy insertion and withdrawal but prevents air leakage. The section of flask that protrudes through the lid must absorb some heat from the ambient. But the losses can't be too bad as the fridge motor cycles about the same as any fridge. Runs 24hr and has not affected the battery overnight and the food contents remain well frozen.
I did consider a flip-over cover for the flask tops but it doesn't seem necessary.

If we take the flasks on a hike I just drape an article of clothing over the open holes.
At night the flasks are left exposed as they are convenient to reach from the bed in the Troopy.
It all just works well.


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Follow Up By: Batt's - Friday, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:35

Friday, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:35
That's certainly thinking outside the square or fridge in your case. Good idea you could also keep the drilled out pieces for plugs build them back up so the fit neatly put a little door knob or similar on top for when you take the water bottles out. Just thinking out loud if I ever copied your idea.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Friday, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:43

Friday, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:43
Just had another thought a kitchen sink plug would work as well one with a lip around the top. Ok time to stop thinking chow.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Friday, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:41

Friday, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:41
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I did retain the drilled-out pieces for plugs Batt's but found them a bit messy, kept getting lost. Found it easier to just chuck an article of clothing over the holes when we took the bottles hiking. Bath plug may work too.

Incidentally, the existing bottle carriers (unrefrigerated) forward of the lid now serve as receptacles for small stuff such as coins.

If considering a similar location for a fridge, consider the clearance for the elbow when changing gears. Mine is just OK.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Saturday, Jan 16, 2016 at 15:14

Saturday, Jan 16, 2016 at 15:14
Thanks for that Alan.
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Reply By: Member - mark D18 - Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 14:21

Monday, Jan 11, 2016 at 14:21
Mark
50% of the people who say don't bother are 100% right . Do what Allan suggested and you will be 110% happy .

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Reply By: Batt's - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2016 at 13:46

Tuesday, Jan 12, 2016 at 13:46
I've seen on other 4WD sites that people are also replacing their centre console with a Waeco CDF 11 because they are a true compressor fridge that will keep items at the temp selected on the control panel and can be left on overnight and longer without flattening your battery. Unlike other types that are cooler/warmers that chew the power and will flatten batteries in a few hours and only really work well in cooler climates while your engine is running to keep up power supply. I'll be hopefully fitting a CDF 11 this year sometime as well.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2016 at 13:56

Tuesday, Jan 12, 2016 at 13:56
I fail to see why you need a compressor fridge freezer to keep a few drinks cool while you are driving. The reviews of the Waeco CDF 11 are not the greatest with them having a short life with failures after a couple of years.

My car has the OEM cooler fitted in the cubby and it is thermo-electric and it keeps drinks at 5 degrees and gets there in less than an hour from room temperature. I guess it is the quality that counts.

Works for me.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2016 at 14:46

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Well Garrycol, I can assure you that the Waeco thermoelectric I tried struggled to bring the drink flasks a much below ambient. And that was even with a reduced chamber volume. Maybe it is "quality that counts".

The CDF-11 has the advantage for me of providing freezer space for food. However I am concerned at your comment about reviews of short life. Can you point me to them?



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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2016 at 15:37

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Hmm yes, I did a search and found several reports of early failures with the CDF-11.
I'll keep my fingers crossed and it will certainly be posted on here if a fault appears.

Also found that the Waeco CF-25 has more than double the internal volume of the CDF-11 whilst being only 30% larger outside. Hmm indeed!

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Follow Up By: garrycol - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2016 at 17:24

Tuesday, Jan 12, 2016 at 17:24
Why do you need freezer space in a cubby cooler???

That is what your main fridge is for!!!
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2016 at 17:44

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Our main fridge is a 35 litre Waeco. Apart from limited capacity it had to serve as both freezer and fridge. The CDF-11 now accommodates all our frozen food and the 35 litre has more space for refrigerated food only. Much easier to manage and to access frozen food without having to dig through the refrigerated section.

It is not possible to increase the size of our fridge due to space constraints (everything including bed fits inside the Troopy). The fridge is very conveniently located on the rear door, see pic below.
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Follow Up By: Slow one - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2016 at 20:02

Tuesday, Jan 12, 2016 at 20:02
Alan,
I have a CF 11 and so far had no problems with it. I also use it for the same reasons you do. My 40l 21 year old Trailblaza does the bulk of work and the little cf 11 does the rest.

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Follow Up By: Batt's - Thursday, Jan 14, 2016 at 02:58

Thursday, Jan 14, 2016 at 02:58
You know Garry they can be used for more than just drinks extra fridge storage for trips, you can safely store milk, meat products etc, etc in them and know that they will be fine because there at a controlled environment that can be left running all the time. Unlike a thermoelectric model which is really only safe to store drinks or veggies in you have to empty each night turn off then turn on in the morning after you start your car then re-pack it and as a bonus if you pull up and want to go for a walk or fish or just about any other outdoor activity that requires you to turn the car off then well you know the drill. 5 deg in your air conditioned car put it outside in the sun on a hot day see how it goes oh you'll have to keep your car running so you don't get a flat battery. Each to their own you buy what suits your needs.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Friday, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:45

Friday, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:45
Alan has the weight of the fridge and the spare wheel given you any issues with the door/ hinges?

It looks like a very convenient setup like that

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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Friday, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:23

Friday, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:23
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It doesn't appear to have been a problem Alby.
The hinges are pretty rugged and when the door is closed it is further supported by the thingummy next to the catch. Furthermore, the base of the fridge is positioned to just skim the floor so severe vertical forces are carried there rather than on the door. It has been there now for 5-6 years.
It certainly is a convenient location. Previously it had to be lifted out at each stop.

What has been a problem with the rear door is cracking of the skin where the bracket for the spare is attached. I fitted reinforcing within the door and have had no further issues.

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