Fuel Prices

Submitted: Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 16:02
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ExplorOz, do you have a regularly updated page on fuel prices? I am looking for the current fuel prices at all servos across the Nullarbor, please...
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Reply By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 17:07

Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 17:07
If you have a smart phone look at the Fuel Map app.
Also look at a similar question on the Caravaners Forum
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Follow Up By: JJ - Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 18:00

Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 18:00
ThanQ, Rod N (QLD), I have iPhone 5, but this is for a fb friend...will pass msg on! Thanx again.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 19:31

Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 19:31
Also Petrol Spy app, a lot older app and possibly being used by a lot more people.
Though any of these are only as good as someone entering info as they find it.
At least they might give you historical info on what places are usually more or less in price.
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Reply By: Ron N - Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 19:45

Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 19:45
JJ - No-one tracks Nullarbor fuel prices, the roadhouses out there are a law unto themselves, and their prices are not posted anywhere.
The best you can do, is find someone who has been through recently and who recorded the prices.

In the comments on the webpage below, reply number 25 from "Alan O", has the list of diesel prices from late Dec 2015 to early Jan 2016.
The price difference between petrol and diesel is now only 2-3 cents on average in the country.

The W.A. Govt operates Fuel Watch, which makes the fuel retailers list their next day prices from 2:00PM each day - and makes them hold those prices for 24 hrs from 6:00AM to 6:00AM.

Fuel Watch covers country areas, but only out to Kalgoorlie and Norseman in the East.

Don't buy fuel from Border Village, they are fuel rorters. Drive the few kms extra into Eucla if you're heading West, or stop at Eucla rather than BV when heading East, and buy your fuel 20c per L cheaper.

Remember to take plenty of water for drinking - the water quality across the Nullarbor is terrible and in short supply all the way across.

Fuel & Accommodation prices across the Nullarbor - TripAdvisor

Fuel Watch - W.A.

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: JJ - Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 23:22

Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 23:22
Thanks for the tips, Ron! I lived at Eucla for 19years, pre bitumen days; back then, everyone at all roadhouses were like one big happy family! Once the blacktop went down, most places changed hands...and the atmosphere changed with it! Yes, when traveling in the west i always followed the Fuel Watch on TV ~ it was great! I will try the Trip adviser link! ThanQ you so much! cheers...
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Reply By: rocco2010 - Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 20:01

Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 20:01
Gidday

It's a common query but given the WA fuel prices have moved up and down around Australia in the last few weeks how would anybody know what is likely to be happening on the Eyre Highway?

I budgeted on 30c a litre more for diesel than I was paying in Perth at the time (last August). Sometimes I was surprised when it was a few cents cheaper.

SA metro prices were cheaper than WA at the time so the differential was greater on the way home

Cheers





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Follow Up By: JJ - Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 23:27

Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 23:27
Yes, same here in SE Qld! Prices up and down like a yoyo! I just want to get an overall average, to work on for a fb friend! Thanx for your input! Every bit of info helps! cheers...
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Reply By: Member - Andrew & Jen - Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 20:06

Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 20:06
JJ
IMHO, some people seem to worry too much about fuel prices across the Nullarbor.
Norseman (Caltex and BP) and Penong (Caltex) both usually have reasonable prices and either fill up before or try to one coming across to fill right up.
Depending on consumption and tank capacity, just try to avoid the two or so that are usually much higher, often Border Village and Madura.
When it comes down to it, if you have to fill up at a slightly higher price once or twice, it might cost you $5 to 8 more each time, which in the great scheme of things, is not much - one or two cups of coffee in a trip that is probably costing many thousands of dollars. Certainly not worth stressing about.
The fuel app will give you a good indication as prices only stay there for about 2 to 3 days max without refreshing.
Cheers
Andrew
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Follow Up By: JJ - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 00:01

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 00:01
No stress, just helping a fb friend and curious myself, as I lived at Eucla for 19yrs before the days of bitumen! Thanx for your advice...
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Follow Up By: Zippo - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 01:48

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 01:48
The Caltex in Norseman is invariably quite a bit cheaper than the BP, which relies on its position to get customers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 06:38

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 06:38
The Caltex in Norseman is not necessarily cheaper than the BP. In Oct the BP was cheaper although I have since found out that the 'truck diesel' at the Caltex is usually cheaper than the normal diesel at the front of the servo. See the Cravaners Forum link I posted earlier.
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Reply By: Member - MARIC - Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 23:16

Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 23:16
Wikicamps aps, gives u a free fuel app Australia wide which is updated by users
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Follow Up By: Member - MARIC - Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 23:19

Sunday, Jan 17, 2016 at 23:19
Oops its called fuel maps
Just looked at Mundrabill Roadhouse on the Nullabor $1.53 todays price
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Follow Up By: JJ - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 00:15

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 00:15
Hey, Thanx for that MARIC, I will look that up and pass on to my friend. Really speaking, that's not a bad price for Mundrabilla! Last we were over there was 2005 and the price at Eucla was $145.9; very good considering it gets almost to that here in SE Qld now at a high! At the mo its $125.9...! Thanx again JJ
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 06:44

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 06:44
Just to highlight how prices change, in Oct Mundrabilla and Eucla were $1.66.
Also Ceduna was cheaper than Pt Augusta
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Follow Up By: JJ - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 09:28

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 09:28
Yep! Have found that before over the years...! When we lived in Hervey Bay, most the time, our petrol was cheaper than half the other towns between there and Brisbane! Sometimes, doesn't make sense! ...just ripping off tourists!!
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Follow Up By: rumpig - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 12:44

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 12:44
We most certainly are likely paying more here still JJ...cheapest diesel here in Brisbane I have seen is my local BP at $113.9, yet Aussie World is $1.05.9. Was in Gympie over the weekend and most places I saw were $1.06.9 and $1.07.9 . Keep in mind that $1.13.9 is the cheapest here, plenty of places still charging $1.20 - $1.29.9...yet people are still fuelling up at them
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Follow Up By: Member - MARIC - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 15:06

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 15:06
Albany today $1.09c ;o))
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Follow Up By: JJ - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 16:11

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 16:11
BaaHaaa! Still $125.9 right here at Caloundra, but ranges anywhere from $112.9 to $121.9 elsewhere along the Sunny Coast! Rafferty's Rules, me thinx! :D
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 16:32

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 16:32
I've never seen a more blatant fuel ripoff than along the Gold Coast.
Stepson lives in Burleigh Waters and when we visited last, late last year, there was not a fuel discount place to be seen, and prices were 10-15c higher than here in Perth.

I got my last lot of ULP here in Perth for 99.9c. Woolies were selling at $1.07.9, and with the shopper docket discount - plus buying 3 bottles of milk, giving me another 4c off - I got 8c off, to bring my price down below a dollar!

I filled everything up! - all my jerrycans, as well as the Hilux - and took nearly the 150L maximum allowed under their T's&C's!

I always keep all my jerrycans full, so if they are playing funny buggers with prices (as they've been doing here for more than 10 days, keeping the prices over $1.20 - then I just fill up from my jerrycans and wait until the prices drop again.

Thank God for Fuel Watch, it's saved us hundreds of dollars. The oil companies hate Fuel Watch and will do anything in their power to have it dismantled.

Just watch - they will whisper in Colin Barnetts ear soon, that FW is completely unnecessary - it's costing the Govt money they haven't got - and if he dismantles it, the "market" will still ensure low prices!!
This is utter BS of course, they are bigger schemers than a committee of Mafia heads!!

I just love all the gobbledegook they use on their mouthpiece website to justify their fat margins and constant and unfettered control of fuel prices!!
They'd make the lowest politician blush with their outright BS and pure greed!

AIP - Facts about prices

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, Jan 19, 2016 at 19:01

Tuesday, Jan 19, 2016 at 19:01
Costco today deisel $1.00, ULP $0.99 :)
The ONLY good thing at the moment about the global financial markets, oil plummeting, and the AUD.
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Follow Up By: JJ - Wednesday, Jan 20, 2016 at 00:29

Wednesday, Jan 20, 2016 at 00:29
Thanx for the feedack, Les! Costco is okay for locals, but is too far away to warrant us becoming members...for little savings! It would cost us half a tank in fuel for starters, with our gas-guzzer! hehe!
Interesting to know prices, tho!
cheers
JJ
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Wednesday, Jan 20, 2016 at 07:37

Wednesday, Jan 20, 2016 at 07:37
Yeah, just saying JJ . . . if the oil price keep dropping sub $1 / lt fuel should be come the norm.
It probably should be by now, but I am sure oil coys will take little profit increases at every opportunity, like our banks creep interest rate margins quite often.
I'm astounded when travelling to Brissy 6+ road trips via different routes in the past couple of years.
Always fuel is cheaper in near country, rather than metro.
Blatant profiteering because they can.
Fuel was even cheaper in numerous country towns heading out for corner country.
I only get across town for Costco fuel about 4 - 6 times a year, but usually fill up a good 250lt - 275lt, and do some basics shopping in bulk, covers the $55 a year biz membership well and saves a little on staple items.
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Reply By: Malcom M - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 07:45

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 07:45
The phone apps 'Fuel Map' and 'Petrol Spy' are very good but both require updating by fuel buyers.
They can only ever be as good as the last entered data as there is no longer an official source of prices.

Petrol Spy does not currently let you manually enter a newly discovered fuel outlet whereas Fuel Map does.
Fuel Map does not seem to so well supported by the public. I find more price data available on Petrol Spy.

Suggest you install both and update them as much as you can.
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Follow Up By: JJ - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 09:36

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 09:36
ThanQ! Think I will find more than enough links to see me out with all of this feedback! What a great response!
A Big "THANK YOU" to all! Cheer and Happy Camping!
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Reply By: Ron N - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 12:39

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 12:39
Retail fuel prices should be investigated by the ACCC - there's some devious behind-the-scenes manipulation going on to ensure motorists are paying far more than they should.
The average price of crude oil today is around US$30 a barrel. At its peak a few years ago, oil was US$110 a barrel.

The average profit per litre at the servo has historically been 2c litre. It's currently 20c litre.
In Perth, the wholesale price of ULP to servos is currently $1.02. Diesel is only $1.05 wholesale.
We should be seeing massive price drops in fuel and big drops in costs of everything as well, because fuel is a substantial cost component of everything.

When I was an earthmoving contractor, fuel made up between 25% and 30% of my business operating costs.
When we had the oil price surge in 1980/1981, diesel went from 10c litre to 40c litre in a period of 18 mths - and coupled with the worst drought in 80 yrs, the double whammy nearly broke me by the end of 1983.
Now we have the massive reverse in oil pricing, I haven't seen bowser fuel prices drop to a quarter of what they were.

However, having said that - the problem the local refineries face, is owning high-cost and ancient refineries (Kwinana is the newest, and it was built in 1954!) and high local refining labour costs.

All the massive new refineries in Asia (Singapore in particular) can refine petrol and diesel at substantially less cost than local refineries - so that's where the local refiners are in a bind.

The oil companies could shut all the local refineries, and just import refined fuel direct, and sell it for less, and make even bigger profits.

However, I suspect the Govt and the unions would go ballistic if that happened, as we would then have no refining capability in Australia, and be totally dependent on overseas refineries.

Regardless, there's room for the local oil companies to give us cheaper fuel at present.
I suspect they are holding the prices up to near the level of massive profit they could make, on importing overseas fuel on a bulk basis, with no local refining.

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: JJ - Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 15:33

Monday, Jan 18, 2016 at 15:33
Thanks for your explanation and breakdown on some of what goes on in the industry! Still makes one wonder how the current high prices and lows are come by and who controls it...def not by crude oil prices! It seems to be high for a week...slowly drops to a comfy low, then suddenly it sky rockets over night again! Oh well, at least its still affordable!
JJ
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Follow Up By: Baz - The Landy - Wednesday, Jan 20, 2016 at 09:14

Wednesday, Jan 20, 2016 at 09:14
The money that fuel retailers make, whether they are the local servo business owner, or the corporate giants like BP and Caltex, pails to insignificance when compared to the money that the government rakes in from every tank of fuel you purchase.

The major retailers like Caltex and BP are mere tax collection agents for the government…

Cheers, Baz – The Landy
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Reply By: Geoff K4 - Tuesday, Jan 19, 2016 at 16:47

Tuesday, Jan 19, 2016 at 16:47
Diesel in Mildura currently $140.9 / litre so your lucky.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Tuesday, Jan 19, 2016 at 18:01

Tuesday, Jan 19, 2016 at 18:01
Geoff - No doubt, you'll be pleased to know that todays Terminal Gate Price for diesel (the wholesale price of diesel, as paid by bulk buyers and servo's) is a whisker over 90 cents a litre today! (apart from Hobart and Darwin).

Can you hear them say, "absolutely raking it in!" [:-)

TGP pricing for the last 5 days

Cheers, Ron.
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Reply By: Geoff K4 - Tuesday, Jan 19, 2016 at 18:33

Tuesday, Jan 19, 2016 at 18:33
Yeah I think they'll need a bigger truck for the money
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