Wednesday, Mar 09, 2016 at 22:40
gbc posted:
I understand what you are saying, I just don't agree that any normally upgraded vehicle ( such as my 2 inch comfort lift) will be affected as you say when operating in a less than fully loaded situation such as this.
It would most likely take a
suspension engineer to work out exactly what will happen. My main concern with any alterations to the original
suspension design when towing a heavy van is what will happen in an emergency situation. A large van travelling at highway speed does not take too kindly to being suddenly knocked off its straight ahead course. Anti sway devices can help bring it back but they have their limits. A lot depends on how violently the van
swings. They will not save the day every time.
A little bit of study by car owners into
suspension designs will soon give them a good idea of how they work. It will also help them understand what any changes to the design can do. Even trying to improve the handling of a street
sedan or sports car can result in major problems if you don't know what you are doing.
It reminds me of a magazine interview with a Chrysler executive that I read back in the days of the Valiant Pacer in the late 1960s. The Pacer had a mildly hotted up engine and modified exhaust, a lowered
suspension, a few stripes on the paint and not much else. The engineer said the reason for building it was Chrysler was aware that a lot of people were carrying out those same alterations to stock Valiants so they decided to do it for them only do it properly. The reason the Pacer retained the three speed gearbox was few if any owners were changing the box to a four speed so they did not change it.
The same applies to modified 4wds today. Very few owners would know exactly what their new
suspension has done to all aspects of the car's handling. If they lift it for more ground clearance on rough tracks then it will clear bigger rocks but how is it going to behave on the road? Nobody lifts a car raising its centre of gravity in the process to improve on road handling.
Overloading the rear of a 4wd and lifting it with a stiffer
suspension or air bags without doing exactly the same to the front
suspension will transfer more weight to the outside rear wheel in corners. That will cause the car to oversteer which is swinging its tail out. Just about all manufacturers have their cars set up with more weight on the outside front wheel in corners which results in it understeering. They do that because few drivers can handle oversteer.
A car prone to going into sudden oversteer with a van on the back is the last thing that you want.
In addition to that you have the roll understeer or roll oversteer issues that I have already mentioned.
Another is the steeper angle on the panhard bar on most coil sprung rear ends when the car is lifted. That is going to move the axle from side to side a lot more than the car manufacturer. intended.
All of this can be bad enough but it can be ten times worse with a monster van on the back. As I said earlier, the van can and most likely will feel very stable but it is only the stable vans that crash. The unstable ones don't because their owners drive them slowly to someone who can fix the problem.
The key to survival in emergency situations is to have a tow vehicle that acts like the proverbial immovable object. If it is heavy enough and long enough to hold the front of the van
rock steady then the anti sway devices are much more likely to be able to bring the van back into line. If the van is capable of "wagging " the car then you could end up wishing the car had an ejection
seat.
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