Looking at getting injectors serviced-anyone done this?

Submitted: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 22:36
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At 200k, my mechanic recommends an injector service on my diesel (non CR)
It's expensive, has anyone who has done this think the benefits are worth it?
Starting to get smoke and a bit slow on acceleration, otherwise in good cond.
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 23:42

Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 23:42
Testing the spray pattern and pressure of injectors is a fairly simple procedure for older diesels. That will tell you if they need to be serviced or not.
I get the Perkins injectors serviced about every 100,000km, or earlier.

I had the Iveco we had in Europe done at 250,000km and the improvement in power and the reduction in smoke was dramatic. That probably had not been done before.

Cheers,
Peter
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Reply By: Malcom M - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 07:13

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 07:13
Whats your idea of expensive?
200 series at around $1500 ea x 8 or a Prado 90 set at $600 fitted.

Did you change spark plugs on your petrol engines? Well it just like that. Its a critical key component that needs to be managed for peak performance & economy.
Stuffed injectors can cause excessive heat and melt pistons.
Non CR injector service is typically done every 100-150 thou. Plenty of people never do them and thats all the black soot you see from trucks. Don't do them on a CR motor and you'll destroy it.

Don't take it to general mechanic, go to a diesel specialist. Petrol injectors are quite different to reco than diesel.
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Follow Up By: Member - Racey - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:59

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:59
Toyota have woken up, injectors now $450 each. Local Toyota quoted $4500 for full replacement.
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Follow Up By: Malcom M - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 11:12

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 11:12
For genuine Toyota? Thats big drop. They were 2K$ each a few years ago.
Sure its not Baileys (which are better anyway)
Still a huge wad of cash for stuff all.
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Follow Up By: Member - Racey - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 16:21

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 16:21
No not Baileys. In fact they did offer a refurbished set which were a few dollars cheaper, but did not like the idea of using Baileys. Did not elaborate. I also commented on the price variation. The answer was that the dealers had a big chat with Toyota about getting hammered by customers.
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Reply By: Hoyks - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:34

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:34
How mechanically inclined are you? Can you live with the vehicle in your shed and off the road for a few days?

Injectors are usually reasonably easy to access. I had them done on my old Terrano II at 100 and 200K, I took them out myself and dropped them in at the diesel specialist though.
There was a bunch of intercooler plumbing I had to remove (top mount intercooler with bonnet scoop) and I needed a modified 27mm spanner to get them in and out. These days there are plenty of cheap deep sockets available that would do the job with slight modification. Other than that, it was just time and basic tools.

From memory getting 4 overhauled with new needles and nozzles and grabbing a set of washers that they seat against was under $300 (was a while ago now though). The second time we found that the lift sensor in No. 1 injector was stuffed, so that was an expensive replacement, but the other 3 were relatively cheap.
If I was paying for labor, then there would be a few workshop hours on top of that involving pulling everything out, running the parts to a specialist workshop and putting it all back in.

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Follow Up By: Ron N - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:56

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:56
Make sure, if you propose doing injector work yourself, that the engine and engine bay is cleaned down spotlessly, and that all tools are clean, and that you take particular care to avoid even the smallest particle of dirt becoming involved anywhere.

Fuel injection system repairs are usually done in a "clean room" with surgical-style conditions.
Even the tiniest particle of dirt can cause enormous damage if it enters a pump or injector, thereby bypassing the filters.

I know diesel injection repairers who will not guarantee their work if someone else fits their reconditioned injectors.

Cheers, Ron.
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Reply By: 9900Eagle - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 18:01

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 18:01
You say it is not common rail so new injectors should be only a few $ dearer than recon. A set for a 1HZ genuine tojo will probably be around $500 for the 6.

The other thing in the gravy train is the pump, now that is where the $'s are.

I don't know what vehicle you own but all the best and have a look around on the net for the price of new injectors for your vehicle.
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Reply By: snow - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 20:17

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 20:17
There was a mob called Hi-Flo that would do injector exchange type service which I had intended to use prior to selling my diesel, however sold it w/o need. The service offered then was quite attractive, not sure if they are still operating but may be worth a look see.
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Reply By: Chambo - Friday, May 13, 2016 at 16:12

Friday, May 13, 2016 at 16:12
Just gave my GU 4.2TD a birthday yesterday at 302K. New injectors, glow plugs etc at a cost of 1k. Was still going fantastically but with a trip in 4 weeks thought it was about time to freshen it up ready for the next 300k.
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