New alcohol laws in the cape.

Doesn't this new law have something to do with trying to alleviate the alcohol problem amongst Aborigine's?

Its to stop the the black fella gettin blind daily.. nothing else, its nothing about invading privacy.. Same as with the Avgas, thats to stop em sniffin the crap, avgas has no aroma, so they dont get wasted.

I say let em get smashed, get liver disease and die off naturally.. Its a cruel world, but you cant change mother nature, its not right.

I expected a reply like that from you.
You do need help.

So correct anything that I said wrong.

oops you cant eh

Just the last section of your reply.
God help the world if we all think like you.
Theres not much you like other than who knows what.

You cant see any thing wrong with your last section of your reply then I think you are a very sick person indeed.

god help us.

It was'nt the Gov it was the local people trying to help themselves & all you can do is post that c.r.a.p

Whilst I don't agree with Truckster, people trying to help themselves by interfering with someone else's rights hardly seems fair.

Why do I need to have restrictions placed on me, when I am able to restrict myself to proper and reasonable behaviour. That someone else cannot is not my fault.

Whilst alcohol abuse is prevalent amongst certain groups, please find a real solution rather than a band aid approach. Governments have been throwing money and improper "solutions" at this problem for years. My enjoying a few cold cans and a bottle of red over dinner will not change anything; equally stopping me doing so will have no effect either.

Jim.

ACtually Bob its the councils up there, not the people.. you think they want nobody selling them p|$$?? LMAO

I agree Jimbo, i'm a fairly pasive guy , BUT this kind if thing incites the worst in me.... where do they get off??

Good on ya Eric I'm sick of this type of statement of Tricksters being unchallenged or simply wiped off the forum, with no apologies or explanation.

I've been sucked into posting on yet another of these ridiculous "pot stirrer" threads but anyway here goes my $0.02 rounded down to $0.00.

1st up this is aboriginal land and they have the legal right to implement what they wish. I find this particular requirement irritating as well but their are idiots who can't help themselves.

Jimbo and Michael et al, the rules are in place not only to stop some aboriginal idiots from getting intoxicated but to also restrict some visiting idiots who load up their vehicles with grog to sell to aboriginals at exorbitant prices to beat the restrictions put in place and thus funding their holiday or worse still providing a regular, neat and easy source of income.

No prohibition is not an ideal form of problem solving but it does help in the short term to allow other solutions to be put in place.

We are legally visitors wether you like it or not, understand it or not. As usual you do have a choice.

Civil disobedience over a bit of grog .............WTF...............?

So it's about stopping sly grog traders. I agree they should be dealt with harshly. Sort of like druggies, those caught with small amounts for personal use are left alone, the dealers get 10 years breaking big rocks into little ones.

Is anyone suggesting the bloke with six bottles of red was up there as a "dealer". I am prepared to bet he was going to be there for six nights and was looking forward to sharing a bottle over dinner each night with the GLW.

This solution simply penalises the wrong people and will not cure the real problem.

And it invades the rights of decent law abiding citizens.

Jim.

Ya got it in 1 Jimbo... Glad someone has open eyes.

Just wondering what the courageous decison/s might be?

You've got me guessing.

Bingo!

truckster thats made my day thank you

Dont worry eric, Id rather go to Iraq with an american flag wrapped around me.

I have a one way ticket booked and two flags im comming down to melbourne to personly help you onto the american air lines plane.
LOL.

It's sad, but it's true, that governments inflict us with rules that do not suit the people.

My father still talks about the 6 o'clock swill. Half a dozen blokes would form a "school" and quaff as many beers they could between 5.30 and 5 to 6 and then buy a few more rounds at 5 to 6 and stack them on the shelf. They would then then skoll the the warmies on the shelf at 6.15 when they were thrown out, and catch the train home. It was an institution. The odd chuck was far from uncommon.

The simple fact is that if you make something illegal people will want to do it (within reason). Prohibition in the US failed around 70 years ago and we are trying it again, albeit in restricted areas, in Australia.

Problem solving is about finding about why people do things, not taking away the things that they do.

Jim.

Jim,

Absolutely spot on!

Magnus

It's sad, but it's true, that governments inflict us with rules that do not suit the people.

My father still talks about the 6 o'clock swill. Half a dozen blokes would form a "school" and quaff as many beers they could between 5.30 and 5 to 6 and then buy a few more rounds at 5 to 6 and stack them on the shelf. They would then then skoll the the warmies on the shelf at 6.15 when they were thrown out, and catch the train home. It was an institution. The odd chuck was far from uncommon.

The simple fact is that if you make something illegal people will want to do it (within reason). Prohibition in the US failed around 70 years ago and we are trying it again, albeit in restricted areas, in Australia.

Problem solving is about finding about why people do things, not taking away the things that they do.

Jim.

I think you are both right on the mark but would have to add that sometimes prohibition has to be implemented so that providing solutions/alternatives to be put in place.

For example, why do people drink, one reason is because there isn't much else to do. So there isn't much point in putting in place vocational training etc if people are toobleepto get involved.

Another reason I have seen for prohibition is that the community doesn't want to even see grog. Think about a recovering alchoholic seeing affluent tourists driving around with a couple of cases and bladders of grog at the back window.

Bit like putting a diabetic in a lolly shop.

i am sorry eric but alot of what you say is true but theres alot of b/s involved when in your last statement you said you can buy a new carton everyday and thats what they want you to do at their overinflated bloody prices its only half about keepinfg the indigenous sober the other half is profit driven like any other land council owned areas so its easier to stay away and not drive ther profit any more

steve

As you said they are over inflated but they have come from Cairns by barge.
In the long run by the time you have draged up say 4 cartons of booze lost 10% broken its about the same cost as per what you bought at say wepia or cairns.

All the best
Eric

Around the $50 mark.
That was last year.
Wepia is about $40

All the best
Eric