How to lift a Jayco tandem axecell

Submitted: Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 19:09
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I would like to no if somebody nos how to lift a tandem so it Bose not hit the ground when I leave an arrive to back down the drive
Standard Jayco van hight ground to under body is normal
But drive is steep at foot path an it bottoms out when I'm in the gutter






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Reply By: Joe G2 - Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 21:14

Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 21:14
This will probably upset someone but what ever happened to grammar and punctuation, are you too lazy to use full stops. This happens too much now days. The "D" and the "B" aren't even near each other. Is this where we are headed with the English language?????
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 22:01

Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 22:01
Maybe English is not his first language.

Ever tried writing in a foreign language yourself and having your work critiqued by a native speaker of that language? Good luck.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 22:23

Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 22:23
It's 'nowadays'.

I just heard glass break.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:48

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:48
I am sitting here chuckling. Grammar - yagottabekiddibnmate. It'sevrywhereeverywhere.

Usually I I just shake my head, read it again and hope that I understand it correctly. If I can't get the punctuation, spelling correct after two reads, and actually understand what the writer was saying, then I just forget it.

I also am not a real William Shakespear's fan. After studying several writings in school, I am of the opinion that he was a raving lunatic. (says he ducking). Maybe he has returned to haunt us.

Frank; You have a point, but if you look beyond this post that we are talking about, it is all throughout Australia, migrating from the media. This is just why I totally agree with comments that we need more english and number skills taught in schools. No good leaving it to the parents as they don't know either. And our old friend Google is't any better.

Joe It's NOT nowadays. That's another american expression like "math", the "get go" (from USA dirt track racing decades back), and putting yourself before everyone in phrases like "me and my wife" instead of "my wife and I".

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:32

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:32
The reason it was difficult to read relates to the fact that some of the words/terms the OP used are REAL words....just not the CORRECT words.

Words such as "no" (when he presumably meant "know"), and "nos" (which is the stuff the boy racers use in their hotted-up "ricers") when he meant "knows" and "an" when the sentence requires "and".

Then there was "Bose" (a brand of stereo gear....even has the upper case "B") when he meant "does".

Like I said....I'm not trying to be critical, but for crying out loud!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 14:44

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 14:44
The post was understandable.

This isn't an English class.
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Follow Up By: Hewy54 - Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 at 08:59

Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 at 08:59
I find it quite amusing that the usual comment about bad English and grammar is usually answered by people who suggest that it should be taught better in schools. Many also lament the falling education standards and make comments "....when I was at school......". Spelling and grammar here is often misused by a generation that was educated under the old system, and it does not seem to have worked very well. It does not take long to use a spellcheck or to proof read a post.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 at 09:29

Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 at 09:29
My children's age are the ones with the school NOT teaching english. Well supposedly.

One teacher, young enough to be my granddaughter, at a yearly concert last year, at my grandchildrens school said; "They done good"!!!! And that is acceptable is it?

So I must be the bad generation am I?

Phil
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 at 09:32

Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 at 09:32
Anyway, we have made our point and apparently today's generation don't give a hoot.

Enough from me.

Have a good day.

Phil
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Follow Up By: mountainman - Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 at 13:28

Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 at 13:28
Damn
half the thread replies here isnt even about the asked subject..
Getting off the beaten track people..
Time to focus and actually contribute to the actual thread.

I wouldn't be too worried about jacking the van up.
just use a proper workshop than do at home by a home handyman sort of affair.
maybe another bit of rhs and longer brackets to get required height
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 at 14:22

Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 at 14:22
Carefull taking this option.

If you do an approved mod and then cause or be involved in an accident without getting the modification passed by rego then you can be sued to hell and back.

Of course you can ignore the rules and just do the irresponsible thing.

Phil

PS: No response to irresponsible comments.

Father pleads guilty over son's death in crash involving illegally modified car
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Follow Up By: D-MaxerWA - Monday, Jun 13, 2016 at 22:05

Monday, Jun 13, 2016 at 22:05
Obviously he should have used CAPITALS. If you speak LOUDER when you are not understood using ENGLISH, you may be understood if you are not understood the first time. Thank you John Cleese for that handy piece of knowledge.

I hope the OP was not from Barcelona.

AND I am a believer in using correct grammer and spelling, but really...
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2016 at 08:21

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2016 at 08:21
GRAMMAR!


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Reply By: Peter C61 - Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 21:19

Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 21:19
Its dangerous to lift the height of a van as it increases the centre of gravity and will make it more unstable when towing. It would be better to put a couple of wheels at the rear corners of the van so that when it bottoms out they will take the weight and roll on them. Some vans are already equipped with them for this reason. They are normally about 10CM in diameter made of steel and fit near where the back stabilizers are.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 13:01

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 13:01
Quote "Its dangerous to lift the height of a van as it increases the centre of gravity and will make it more unstable when towing."

What are you telling us? It's just raising the height of the van to something that is still less than the off road vans. Are you alluding that off road vans are unstable on the road?
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Follow Up By: Peter C61 - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 13:50

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 13:50
Its this attitude that get caravaners into trouble when towing. A normal caravan is built for good on road conditions unlike off road caravans that are fitted with better suspension including shock absorbers which other vans don't have. If you had any experience with towing you would know how easy it is to make a caravan unstable by a simple thing as loading incorrectly. IDIOTS
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Follow Up By: storky5 - Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 14:32

Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 14:32
I only need 50 mill at the most
It was sajested I put longer spring hangers on
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Reply By: Member - Roachie - Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 21:19

Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 21:19
Mate, I had to read your post a few times to try to interpret what you want to do. I "think" I know, but I can't be sure because your post is full of spelling errors etc so if my answer is not what you were expecting, please forgive me.

If your van has solid axles (as opposed to independent swing arms etc), then you can do a relatively simple "spring over". This requires you to jack the van up at all four corners, remove the wheels, then remove the axles. You then place the axles UNDER the springs and bolt it all together again.

You MUST use proper safety equipment when doing this job. If you don't know much about tools etc, it would be best to get it done by a workshop.

NOTE: This will affect the overall ride height of the van and will mean you will have to raise the towbar height too AND the centre of gravity of the van will be raised and thus it will be compromised.

In some states this modification may also be illegal (not sure about that though).

If it has independent swing arm type suspension you may be able to simply buy taller springs.

To my way of thinking it is a lot of effort to go to just avoid it scraping on the footpath/roadway.......just drag it across!!

Good luck.

Roachie
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Follow Up By: gbc - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 06:01

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 06:01
The pre cambered axles will need to remain in the same relative position which will require 4 new locators to be bought and welded on once positioning is confirmed.
Depending on the spring arrangement you'll have to either remove the springs completely or remove the brake hubs from one end to get the axles out of the gap in the springs too.
You'll end up the thickness of the springs, the locator and one axle higher which is usually 4-5 inches.
It is recommended to ditch u bolts and nuts and buy new ones due to the tension they are under as well.
Under slinging often looks an easy enough job but often ends up anything but, usually due to the latent condition of old running gear, bearings and brakes which may not have seen too many spanners.
Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: storky5 - Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 14:28

Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 14:28
From Storky
Thank you for your input it will be done as you say legally have found caravan mob to do the repairs an lift the van so it will go over the edge of the drive
A to those smart asses out there
I left school at 13 years to work an earn money for the family to live like my brothers
so now you know why I can't spell
An I drive a 5 trailer road train and I still can't spell like u
An I been driving 4x4 defore u were born
And this forem is to ask for answers to problems not to be judged by clowns
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 14:47

Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 14:47
You tell'em Storky. :)
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Reply By: Member - Roachie - Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 21:27

Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 21:27
I've taken the liberty of reproducing the original post into something that may come closer to "English".

I'm not trying to be a smart-rrrrrrrs, it's just that the way it was written it was virtually unintelligible.

OP: I would like to know if somebody knows how to lift a tandem so it does not hit the ground when I leave and arrive to back down the driveway of my home?
It is a standard Jayco van height, ground to underbody is normal height,
but driveway is steep at foot path and it bottoms out when I'm in the gutter.
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:10

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:10
And a liberty it is Roachie. I think most of the posters on here are quite capable of understanding the posters problem without your assistance.
Dave.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:23

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:23
You have my sincere apologies David....did not mean to upset you or anybody else....I was just trying to be helpful. Perhaps I should just pull my stupid head in in future.
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Follow Up By: Member - Witi Repartee - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 13:44

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 13:44
Roachie...Done u no be in help fill is not peecee in 2 days infironmint. Lol
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Reply By: TomH - Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 21:42

Friday, Jun 10, 2016 at 21:42
Get some long boards like 8x2 and put them across dip in the gutter and pack under the middle and pull van across them..
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 16:21

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 16:21
Is that all it is about. Buggered if I got it.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Monday, Jun 13, 2016 at 22:18

Monday, Jun 13, 2016 at 22:18
I'm with Tom on this one. Might be less pfaffing around to just get some ramps to negate the steep angle of the driveway.

Keeps the caravan standard.
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 14:11

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 14:11
The recommended way to raise vans is to remove the suspension from the vans (including the spring hangers.) You then use the same sort of RHS (rolled hollow section) the chassis is constructed from and weld a piece or that under both sides of the chassis. Then re-weld the suspension to the new packing pieces. Use 50 x 50, 50 x 75 or 50 x 100 mm sections depending whether you want a 50, 75 or 100 mm lift. If the packing sections are longer than necessary just to accommodate the suspension you will also strengthen the chassis.
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Follow Up By: storky5 - Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 14:30

Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 14:30
Thank you
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Reply By: 9900Eagle - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 18:36

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 18:36
Paulie,
Best advise is from Peter D, but if you can't afford it, then the old method of altering the axle from spring under to spring over works as well, with just a bit of axle walking.

Hell!!!!! I hope I haven't used any incorrect words or placed any punctuation thingies in the wrong place. Also, from what I see Roachie was only trying to help.

I know of many that have been lifted without problems or accidents.
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Follow Up By: tg123 - Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 19:47

Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 at 19:47
I am deaf and use the subtitles when watching TV - great practice for interpreting some of the posts on this forum!! LOL. Give it a go, you'll get a good laugh out of it at the very least.
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Reply By: nickb - Monday, Jun 13, 2016 at 02:41

Monday, Jun 13, 2016 at 02:41
As above the easiest way to get a lift is to unbolt the axle, remove it and rebolt it under the springs. One issue is that if you have a full annexe with built in floor it may not reach the ground near the van.

Ignore the spelling nazis, not everyone has had the luxury of a good education!!
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Follow Up By: storky5 - Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 14:36

Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 14:36
Thanks have heard from some others about your sejestion and will be having it done by caravan mob
So it's rwc
Thanks
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Reply By: Villatranquilla - Monday, Jun 13, 2016 at 22:02

Monday, Jun 13, 2016 at 22:02
Jayco (Perth) did this modification for us - axle under the springs - cost $400 as we had the same issue getting the van up our driveway
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Reply By: storky5 - Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 14:45

Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 14:45
Thanks to al who understand an oldies problem with a near new van an a steep drive way.
Some highly educated people have know I dear what life is about .
but to critesize other people's lesser eduction.
O by the way did your boss give u a family holiday all payed for.

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