Two steps forward, one step back?

Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 13:58
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Anyone else read the Car Advice article at the bottom of the index page, re upgraded 70 series models?

While the upgrade to 5 star rating will be welcomed, the drop to 130L fuel capacity and a DPF would not so popular. No doubt it will suit the a/m tank manufacturers...........more clients.

No mention, that I saw, about the promised power/torque improvements. The change to 5th gear will certainly be popular!

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Reply By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 14:08

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 14:08
Hi

Link to car advice article I think you are referring to in case anyone is wondering....

2017 Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series: more power and torque, extra features

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Reply By: Gramps - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 17:31

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 17:31
I think the '15 & '16 GXL dual cabs already came with 130l tanks as standard. Mine certainly did.

Glad I bit before the DPF though. May not be that much of a problem but have certainly heard bad reports.

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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 20:51

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 20:51
No doubt "one size fits all" tank reduces assembly costs, Gramps? A case of you can have any size tank you want as long as it's 130L.

Wonder if the new engine upgrade will further improve the economy, together with the revised 5th gear?

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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 20:50

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 20:50
I would be inclined to think the 130 litre tank across the board is incorrect
The tanks from the single to dual cabs do not interchange with each other currently so I would think it would be more work ($$$) in changing the chassis or current fuel tank configuration to do so
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Reply By: 9900Eagle - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 18:15

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 18:15
Bob,
some good changes there except for the 130l tank. That won't be much of a problem, and I can see a 90l rear poly tank from the aftermarket industry shortly after the release.

Good to see they finally worked out 5th gear, rocket science I guess.

The DPF won't worry anyone using the vehicle for what it is designed for, but I wouldn't want to be using it as the round town shopping trolley.

I saw one with a heavy bush tracker on the back pull out today in front of another old 1hz ute with his horn playing a bit of James Morrison. Old mate in the V8 70 managed to give second gear a good polish.
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Reply By: pop2jocem - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 20:43

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 20:43
I wonder if they have given any attention to the alternator that on previous models suffered anaphylactic shock at the mere mention of moisture.

A bit ordinary for a vehicle that may get called upon to ford the odd muddy stream.

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Reply By: blue one - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 19:59

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 19:59
I had the dollars and determination to buy a 70 series. Really had my heart set on one.

It took 5 months for me to talk myself out of buying one.

Where to start, well here we go, alternator location, suspension upgrade, rear wheel track, seats, wheels (Get rid of splits), A/C, cruise control, as an option!!

Got up to $90000 for a 4wd.

For something I am going to use in the bush $90k is way too much.

Bought a BT 50 with decent tyres and it handles the rough stuff "Stock"

At half the price there is no argument as logic states keep the $45k for maintenance and the next 4wd.

With low range and the rear diff lock I was up and over where a 31" tyre and 50mm lift got stuck.

I know the BT 50 is a light weight 4wd and I will drive / load it accordingly.

Toyota needs to have a good look at themselves.
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 20:31

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 20:31
Spot on blue one.

I've been an owner and fan of the 70 series for more years than I care to remember. Still own one, but the cost has just gone beyond the point of being reasonable for what you get. Like you I could come up with the readies if I choose to but I am not that financially endowed that I can spend it like water.

The next incarnation, I am told, will hit the dealers floor's next year with amongst other upgrades, one piece steel wheels and a few more airbags. No attention to the rear track or re-positioning of the alternator or so I am lead to believe.

A Ranger or BT50 are looking good for me in the not too distant future.

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Follow Up By: blue one - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 20:46

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 20:46
I know Pop,
J40 (diesel) was first 4wd I had and it was a beaut. Ran it through a lot of rough tracks, deep water, sus diesel and it never complained. At that time it out shone the competition by a mile.

Times have changed.
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