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Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 19:43
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Hello i need to buy a new generator & was wondering what everyone recomends i believe Honda's eu20 to be the best & highest rated but are there others that are as good like kipor gs2000 or yamaha ef2000 subaru, briggs & stratton, one day it will run an aircon but for now just general use
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Reply By: eaglefree - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 19:57

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 19:57
I've had a kipor 2000 for maybe 5 years and its been great. Easy to start and always does.
Its had a lot of use as we have a lot if power outages in the Bush where we live.
I bought it at bunnings and noticed the current price is way under what I paid.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Allkar - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 14:00

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 14:00
We had a Kipor gs2000. Had it for four years worked great did every thing we wanted except that it required 2 new inverter boards at a cost of $600 each time. Didn't have it repaired second time now have Honda eu20 .
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Reply By: Gronk - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 20:15

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 20:15
You'll get lots of replies about how good cheaper brands are, but if you intend to use it for camping ( near other people ), then Honda or Yamaha are 2 of the quieter ones out there.

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Follow Up By: putrol4.2 - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 20:51

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 20:51
my cheap one just died (2 years) so not doing that again i wont something to last
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Reply By: Bigfish - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 20:59

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 20:59
You have already mentioned the best..honda. Many aboriginal communities I worked in had cheap gennies for a short period. they all crapped out early. Many of the homeland managemet then bought hondas. Bugger all mechanical issues and they ran 24hrs a day for months on end. I,ve got 2 of them. Brilliant. Had a yammie but was tempremental. Anything made by honda is generally good value for money.
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Reply By: AlbyNSW - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 21:41

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 at 21:41
I note you mentioned Subaru
I don't know about their genies but I know the hire companies Etc favor the Subaru motor over the Honda for reliability on their fire pumps so they might be worth a closer look
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Reply By: Malcom M - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 06:16

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 06:16
Have a Honda and the Kipor knock off of it. The Honda is way quieter but both have been perfectly reliable.
Note that teh smaller Hondas (EU10 etc) do not have replaceable cylinder liners so the motor is pretty much a throwaway if you wear it out.

My vote is Honda
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Reply By: Member - John T (Tamworth NSW) - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 06:56

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 06:56
Hi and good morning

The Honda eu2 might struggle to run an aircon (depending on aircon type). Yamaha EF2400 has more oomph and equally reliable as any Honda. Other makes such as Kipor have had bad publicity in the past so will not comment on same. My Honda 1kw is a gem and perfect for my needs.

Best of luck with whatever choice you make

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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:07

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:07
A major factor is the actual output , the Honda eu20 is NOT 2kva whereas the Yamaha for slightly less $$ can and does put out more power ….
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Follow Up By: putrol4.2 - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 17:23

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 17:23
i take you mean that the yamaha ef2400 is higher rated as the ef2000 & eu2000 are the same & its 12kg heavier dont think the wife could lift it
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:39

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:39
My readings (but I'm not a techno-boffin) suggest that Honda / Yamaha = quality, ease of use and reliability (other makes may too, but these two makes seem a very safe bet - and prices area reasonable too, seeing how long they last, the work they can do and the long warranty). Couple of points (probably mentioned above)....assess your real power level needs and make sure a gennie under consideration can deliver that power continuously. Most power levels stated are for the peak / short term output (continuous levels are also stated, but usually significantly lower - 20% even). The other factor is weight ! Make sure you can physically handle the weight of anything you target - handled wrong, its easy to put your back out (well my back can, anyway :-)....that 2.4 Yam weights 32kg !
I have a Yamaha EF1000iS (13kg), just for battery charging and other low end uses - never a problem - runs quietly (on eco throttle) and starts every time - frugal on fuel too.
Oil changes are cheap as dirt (small capacity) and filter cleaning is dead easy. If I need to upscale for the caravan's aircon needs, I'll properly test a Honda 2k on the van, at a dealer, to see if it'll do the job. There is no way I could handle a 2.4k Yamaha.
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Reply By: Member - Ian T6 - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:22

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:22
Both yamaha and honda are quality products and worth the extra cost. I prefer honda but purely subjective and style reasons. I currently have upgraded to the eu30iu ($$$$) although heavy at 35kg much easier to move around than all the lighter ones since i dont have to carry it as it has wheels and folding handle like a suitcase

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Reply By: Iza B - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 18:30

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 18:30
I have a Honda. Mate has a Honda. Another mate has a Honda. Yet another mate has a Honda. Bloke next door has a Honda in his work ute. Fire fighting pump has a Honda. I have never had a Kipor or Yamaha or other. Never had or heard of a problem from me or the mates. I can only report that my experience with Hondas has been really, really good and would buy another in an instant if this one ever gets stolen. Bit like the fridge debate - I don't care about price, I am more into the confidence in the brand based on experience.

One advantage of having a Honda when all my mates have Hondas is that I can hook two together with a sync cable if I need high power.

Iza
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Reply By: gelatr - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 20:09

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 20:09
Yamaha for me. Having owned Yamaha outboards, motorbikes and a Yamaha JetSki my experience is that they are a quality product. Keep in mind half the people out there saying that Honda generators are the best have bought their first Honda product when they retired and bought the van. I'm not saying that the Honda product isn't good, because it is, it just that there is another quality product in the generator space, and it's blue.

Cheers Geoff
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Reply By: swampy - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 21:19

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 21:19
hi
All the parts, electronic carburetor ,inverter boards etc etc no matter if you have a Honda or Chinese unit 99% are not worth fixing.
Funny how the Honda 1kv and the 2kv generators are worth around 900$ in the USA . Do u feel ripped off yet??
A Chinese 1.5kva will do me at 450$ thankyou. Yes it is as quiet as a 2kva Honda.
If i was going to entertain purchasing an expensive unit . Yamaha .

swamp
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Follow Up By: putrol4.2 - Sunday, Jun 19, 2016 at 21:07

Sunday, Jun 19, 2016 at 21:07
bought a chinese gentrax 3.4kva wouldnt run a 2000w compressor or pressure washer & only lasted 14 months never again
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Reply By: eaglefree - Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 22:54

Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 at 22:54
To iza.b and others re: you don't care about price.

People say that about everything, from cars to vans and everything in between.

The problem being that some of us cannot afford the better quality items. We can't afford quality with everything.

I've only recommended my kipor because its relatively cheap and mine has been reliable. Of course Honda and others are better quality, no doubt. But there is a lot of members here that do caravanning on the cheap as there us no other way.

Some people talk as if there is no excuse for not purchasing top of the range products. There are reasons.

So if you are a pensioner, no super, no inheritance, no negative geared 5 homes, buy a kipor. If not buy a Honda.

And make or buy a cheap hand trolley for the Genny. It can double up to move around your wife's makeup cases....
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Follow Up By: Iza B - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 14:57

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 14:57
"Buy cheap, buy twice" is some sage advice I heard some time ago. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/buy_cheap,_buy_twice

I use my generator most days. Often I need my generator to go first time. My experience with the Honda brand goes back a lot of years and the confidence reduces my stress levels. Price was not a consideration when I made a decision on what generator to buy.

Others may have good reason to include price in their decisions on what to buy. I don't waste a minute of my time judging other people on the quality of their equipment.

Iza

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Follow Up By: swampy - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 17:43

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 17:43
HI
Iza B
Honda guenuine spare parts are not always the same quality as the original factory fitted part. Most times they come from the cheapest country possible that can supply . You can only imagine the quality .
Most makers do this .
Carby bowls lasts 7 yrs from new and replacements last 3mths

A major stationary supplier use to use nikile sil bores instead of cast iron . Basically it just delaminates ,pits etc etc . Cost them a fortune in short motors . So much for a world wide manufacturers . Reliability was in there advertising ha ha

Once again the Jsmall engine units are way over priced in Oz
40 per piston in usa and 240 in oz

Swamp
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Reply By: Adam H - Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 00:36

Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 at 00:36
I have the 2.4kva Yamaha love it have a collapsible sack truck to help move it starts first time every time. And love the fact u can turn off the fuel to the carby so no fuel sits there to gum up if not used for a period of time.it is as good as a Honda.
44 degree day ran all day to keep the van cool for the wife and kids and didn't miss a beat.
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