Ford Everest.

Submitted: Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 16:52
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Afternoon all.
Just after some opinions from owners of Everest towing vans.
We are currently looking at upgrading our current tug to an Everest Trend. On paper it ticks all the boxes for us and our van which is a Retreat Daydream 2581kg ATM is well within its limits. I know they are a wagon version of the Ranger so Ranger owners feel free to chip in too.
Please guys only opinions from owners of said vehicles.
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Robbo
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Reply By: tazbaz - Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 17:56

Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 17:56
Robbo
We have a 2014 Ranger and our van's ATM is 2500kg. A couple of months ago we towed it over the Snowy's - Cooma to Corryong, and reached an altitude of 1650m. Ranger did it with ease. There wouldn't be many vans in Aus that have been to 1650m.
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Reply By: TomH - Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 18:04

Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 18:04
Did you read this
http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/130438/So_sad_about_the_new_Ford_Everest.aspx
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Follow Up By: robbotd5 - Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 18:51

Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 18:51
Yes I read it. Pretty pointless article. I'm not planning to sleep in it, Adblue does not scare me ( watch how it catches on as emissions rules tighten)
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Reply By: Winner W - Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 19:50

Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 19:50
Have a PX Ranger Wildtrak since 2012. Towing my 6 m halfcabin full of gear in the boat and the ute full too with 4 blokes is a pleasure. Still drives nice in the city and decent off road.
Everest must be similar. There is a reason you see so many Bt 50 and Px Rangers on the road towing big vans and boats
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Reply By: Member - Wildmax - Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 21:17

Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 21:17
Or Toyota Fortuner? Basically a Hilux in wagon format, and higher towing capability the current model Prado.
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Follow Up By: outback epicurean - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 13:40

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 13:40
Doing the same sort of research, looking to buy a new tow vehicle for 2t off road van. Last week drove the Fortuner and Prado. Absolutely no comparison. Although the Fortuner supposedly has a higher towing capacity, felt very unsettled on a bitumen road and twitchy around corners. Prado just sat on the road and handled much better. Salesman said the Fortuner does not have the ride and road handling of the Prado and he is right. Great pity the Prado does not have higher towing capacity and not sure why it is limited to 2.5 t.

Still considering but Ranger looks like the best option at this stage. Also very disappointed with Everest as the 3rd row of seat means it is completely unsuitable for long term 4WD touring.
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Follow Up By: gbc - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 13:57

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 13:57
Doesn't the third row fold into the floor? Meaning you could remove them completely and score even more space?
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Follow Up By: outback epicurean - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 19:22

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 19:22
No the third row fold down but not flat. Major exercise to remove them. Also does not appear well suited to cargo barrier. Just don't seem at all suitable for 4wd touring.
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Follow Up By: gbc - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 21:18

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 21:18
I had a better look after reading your comment. Similar setup to our TriBeCa. I agree not great for touring.
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Reply By: swampy - Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 22:20

Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 22:20
hi
Caution
Car of the year Ford Ranger . hmmmm!!!
Ok for features and performance but
Testing does not include real world durability .
History is littered with cars that are great for a magazine but a little poor long term .
Caution

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Follow Up By: Paul E6 - Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 22:36

Monday, Aug 08, 2016 at 22:36
You have a time machine?
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Follow Up By: GREG T11 - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 21:08

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 21:08
If Swampy does I would not mind borrowing it! Ford build some very attractive product. Meets all the criteria for a good vehicle with class leading dynamics and people rave about them ( as owners of rangers prove ). However they do make what appear to be mind boggling decisions attempting to lower fuel/emissions, or just outright penny pinching. Oil coolers are a prime example, but the list is long as my arm on various issues across the range of their vehicles, some of which would be considered annoying right through to your car goes into limp home mode every so often to your car don't go at all and anything in between. Unfortunately ford have a habit of wacking new tech in without fully developing it. That's my perception anyway.

The dealer back up is a lottery depending on who you deal with.

I agree with Swampy, long term yet to be proven.

Good luck








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Follow Up By: Ron N - Thursday, Aug 11, 2016 at 21:15

Thursday, Aug 11, 2016 at 21:15
Ford have a nasty habit of building a basically good vehicle, then letting the bean counters loose on it, to try and cheapen every component.

I can assure you this is a regular technique with many manufacturers, but Ford are best at it.

They will examine every item in a vehicle to see how it can be produced at lower cost. When that involves less labour, I'm fine by that - but when it involves less metal, or plastic instead of metal - then they lose me, and a lot of other customers.

Falcon window drive mechanisms were a classic. They built a satisfactory window drive mechanism - but rather than use an alloy diecast gear, they used a plastic gear. The result was regular stripped window drive gears.

Great for Ford parts sales, but a cost burden on owners as the door had to be stripped down, the window regulator and motor removed - and a complete new assembly fitted.

Yes, you read right. You couldn't buy just the stripped gear, you had to buy a COMPLETE DRIVE MOTOR assembly! - at sizeable cost.

I've owned dozens of Toyotas and never had a window drive system fail yet - and some of those Toyotas were/are 15 yrs old or more.

Then Ford wonder why repeat sales aren't forthcoming, and no-one buys Falcons any more.

Holdens did the same thing with their old 6cyl red, blue and black motors. The distributor drive gear was originally steel - then the bean counters changed it to plastic. The result - distributor drive gears stripped by the thousand, and owners looking for the original steel gear as a replacement.

Plastic water pump impellers are another doozy. Guaranteed to crap themselves within 50,000kms, generally - particularly if you drive regularly at high speed. All to save 50c on every impeller.

I could go on - but beware of the bugs hiding in Fords due to the bean counters penny-pinching.
What is extremely annoying is that Ford have some brilliant engineers, some really good designs, and generally good manufacturing practices - then they wreck it all, by letting miserly bean counters loose on their operations, thus destroying their reputation for reliability - and all to save $50 per vehicle.

Toyota built their name and reputation on building a quality product that lasts, without resorting to penny-pinching.
They stumbled on QC for several years in the early 2000's, as they sought production levels over quality levels - and it came back to bite them on the bum.

I think they've learnt a lot, but I think that even Toyota build quality isn't what it was. However they will still beat any Ford any day, for longevity and reliability.

You can always pick an also-ran in the vehicle field. They're the ones you find, 8 yrs old, with 250,000kms on the clock - and 10% of the switches have stopped working, and 15% of the knobs and handles have fallen off.
Unfortunately, those vehicles are usually Fords, Mitsubishi's and Nissans.

Cheers, Ron.
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Reply By: 9900Eagle - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 05:46

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 05:46
Robbo, I have a 2012 px ranger that has done nearly 60000K of towing of a 2500kg van. It has had no problems at all and tows effortlessly.

I have a scangage and drive the vehicle according to the readouts, watching gearbox, engine temps and boost plus leaving the shifter in sports mode as recommend when towing. I only intervene on down steep sections and predictive down shifting for upcoming steep hills.

I have fitted a auto trans cooler, because I believe the present cooler is too small to do the job.
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Reply By: gbc - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 06:53

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 06:53
We've got 5 3.2 auto rangers at work. Mines 2013 80,000 kms. All good. Best tow vehicle I've had. They tow full time. Nil coolers. Nil issues. Sorry, mine split an inter cooler hose - it was a common thing but they have changed them now.
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Follow Up By: Winner W - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 11:32

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2016 at 11:32
The Auto is brilliant with towing and beach work and city driving....
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Reply By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Friday, Aug 12, 2016 at 23:14

Friday, Aug 12, 2016 at 23:14
Hi Robbotd5,

Have a look at the Isuzu mux range.Same 3ltr.motor as the Ute and from memory a 3 tonne towing capacity.

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