Caravan Diesel Heaters

Submitted: Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 15:28
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Can anyone advise me on these units for a 17 caravan. What is a good brand made in Australia thanks John ?can you install them yourself ?
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Reply By: TomH - Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 15:34

Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 15:34
Been discussed comprehensively on the caranners forum and no you cant legally install them yourself
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 16:00

Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 16:00
I beg to differ as there is no governing body that controls the installation of a diesel heater - gas yes but not diesel.
Another option that has recently been discussed on Caravanners Forum is to use your gas hot water system and circulate the hot water through a radiator the same as your car heater works.
You need a small 12V pump to circulate the water and a fan to blow air through the radiator to collect the heat.
Very cheap option and from what i have read, it works very well. Have seen someone using an auto transmission cooler. If you had access to a wrecked car you could probably pull the heater and fan out of that to use.

You can buy the full kit for around $500 but using bits and pieces you could do it much cheaper. If you have a HWS you should already have gas on board.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 16:18

Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 16:18
Assuming that the water from the HWS is potable before the mod, then after the mod it may be tainted from running through hoses, etc.

Just a thought.

The dedicated heaters that work that way (eg Webasto) circulate hot green auto coolant through the room heater and may also run it through a heat exchanger to provide hot water, a lá Kimberley Karavan.

FWIW, I don't think that heater in my van is particularly powerful, though the water it produces is way hot enough. For a larger van a more efficient diesel to air heater may be more appropriate.

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Reply By: Member - Racey - Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 15:34

Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 15:34
Hi Johno, we have a 19ft Evernew with a Dometic Eberspacher D2 heater and it's great. The heat output is 2.2 Kw, which is ample for even the coldest nights. Can be DIY if your a handy person.

Very satisfied after 8 years still going strong.

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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 17:31

Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 17:31
I installed a planar diesel heater in our van.?? It has been the best mod I have ever done to a van. It makes our van toasty warm even on the coldest nights.??
It was fairly easy to fit. Just sit down and read all instructions then nut it out. Think again then just do it. The biggest thing is where to locate the fuel tank.
Mine came as a kit with a 5 ltr fuel tank which I installed in the front boot away from weather and dust. It uses around 100 ml per hour of running on average giving 10 hrs per ltr. Very frugal. As our tug is an oil burner I just top it up when filling the tug.??
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Reply By: 2517. - Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 19:09

Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 19:09
Gas heaters are great to but you cannot run one for 20 cents a hour as Dodger said.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 15:10

Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 15:10
Dodger was talking about diesel heaters not gas ones. Mine burns around one litre per 8 hours. If we use your 20 cents per hour that makes diesel $1.60 per litre.
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Reply By: rumpig - Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 20:25

Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 20:25
We have a Webasto diesel heater in our Kimberly Kamper, and for the past 5 years it has worked flawlessly and I wouldn't own a camper without one now. If it can keep us warm in all that canvas, it'd work a treat in a modern caravan. Uses approx 2 - 2.5 litres of diesel in a 12 hour period with it running all night constantly...ie:- the heat turned up so it runs without cycling on and off.
There are various similar cheaper units you can buy and DIY install, I think one such brand is called Snugger which was recently mentioned on MySwag forum.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 23:47

Saturday, Aug 20, 2016 at 23:47
Have a listen to one before you buy. They are initially quite noisy and will disturb your immediate neighbours - especially when you start it at crack of dawn. Ours is a Dometic Eberspacher D2 - about 12 months old. Works very well though.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 15:18

Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 15:18
This subject has been thrashed to death in all the forums. If your heater is properly installed with an exhaust silencer it is only the supersensitive wingers who go looking for them that hear them. They are no where as noisy as most of the air conditioners and no one objects to them being fitted to vans. I have not asked tent dwellers if they have heard mine but when I ask neighbours in pop-tops they all say they have not heard it running.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 16:58

Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 16:58
Peter, do you mean intake silencer?
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 17:09

Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 17:09
Yes, the Webasto needs both an intake and an exhaust silencer. The installation manual is quite specific about that, but not every installer reads it!!!!

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 17:51

Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 17:51
Thanks Frank. Ours is the Eberspacher and it comes with the exhaust silencer, but having just read the installation manual, the intake silencer is optional. Looks like I'll have to go buy an intake silencer.
So I've just ordered the genuine Eberspacher D2 silencer - $83 delivered from a UK seller. Didn't want to risk the $25 Chinese version.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 20:48

Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 20:48
No Phil, ours only has an exhaust silencer, that is all that comes in the installation kit.

"Yes, the Webasto needs both an intake and an exhaust silencer. The installation manual is quite specific about that, but not every installer reads it!!!!"

Which page is that on? The subject has been discussed in the four forums I frequent over the last 5 or so years and that is the first time that that gem has come up.
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Reply By: Life Member-Doug T NSW - Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 09:33

Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 09:33
I would be very careful what you use , unless your ready to meet your maker.
Gas risk in caravans

dangers of portable gas heaters in a confined space
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 12:02

Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 12:02
Good point Doug but nobody has even mentioned the use of a portable gas heater.
A properly installed diesel or gas heater that is designed to be installed into vans are quiet safe to use.
A diesel heater can be a DIY but gas needs to be installed by a certified gas installer.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 15:22

Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 15:22
The heaters being discussed here must be installed so their combustion air and their exhaust discharge are out in the open air, just like gas fridges. No one has suffered from properly installed and maintained heaters like these.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 21:07

Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 21:07
No one has suffered from properly installed and maintained heaters like these.


Except the campers nearby who have to listen to the noise !! lol
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 22:30

Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 22:30
Gronk, how do you get on with air conditioners? They are much louder than the diesel heaters.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Monday, Aug 22, 2016 at 18:12

Monday, Aug 22, 2016 at 18:12
Don't hear air conditioners when free camping. Yet to hear someone run their gennie all night for one.

You might have a quiet heater, but the ones I've heard sound like a jet plane coming in for landing. Louder than a gennie....even a Honda.

I use a doona for cold nights....works a treat.
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Follow Up By: GREG T11 - Thursday, Aug 25, 2016 at 20:07

Thursday, Aug 25, 2016 at 20:07
Haha Gronk, that reminds me of an old housemate years ago. I came home one night and here he is sitting in front of the tv with a radiator on in his singlet and shorts!

Getting older does make me realise though that low temps and the body don't get on that well, and whilst a short trip once or twice a year or just w/ends away are able to be handled ( always nice to get home ) those on the road for extended periods have to have a ability to keep comfortable.

Especially when the weather is foul for a few days as well.
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Reply By: Member - Rustygq - Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 14:58

Sunday, Aug 21, 2016 at 14:58
I fitted a Wabasto and it works great, no more freezing mornings in the poptop, couple of mates have a dometic and they seem just as good. Both German made. They use diesel heaters in their houses over there so should know what they are doing. When I fuel the Patrol I just top up the tank while Im at the bowser

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