replacement tow vehicle

Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 31, 2016 at 18:01
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am considering a replacements veh to tow our jurgen explorer van. I am leaning towards possibly a prado, pajero about 2012 onwards or even an fj cruiser. Am open to suggestions and advive.
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Reply By: Member - mark D18 - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2016 at 18:53

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2016 at 18:53

For what it is worth I would go with the Prado or the Pajero (diesels )

Keep in mind the Prado will have better resale than all the other bands and Generally over the long term will be more reliable .

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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2016 at 20:23

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2016 at 20:23
Prado V Pajero?
As stated above Prados have superior resale value, but are dearer to buy.
So if you turn your vehicle over regularly and or do few kms, Prados are the go
Reliability, I don't think there's any difference, both great.

Prados are more refined to drive, quieter and smoother, vastly superior NVH, but I find they are like driving a lounge, wallow when cornering. I'll put up with noise for superior handling
Pajeros I've found have a superior engine (diesel) and gearbox 2012-2015
Pajeros suffer from rear tyre scrubbing when towing a heavy load unless you have a WDH
Most Pajeros have factory rear diff locker if that's important to you.
Prados have significantly greater touring range (fuel tank capacity), but more limited rear cargo room with their fold under seats and the higher cargo floor
Prados are genuine 8 seaters, Pajeros 7
Pajeros have longer warranties than Prados (irrelevant if you are buying a older / > 120000km vehicle)
Pajeros apparently have reached the end of the line, Mitsubishi announced they have no plans for a significantly new model, may affect resale value
Towing capacity, though Pajero claim higher, in practise I don't think in reality there's any difference when you consider GVM and what's sensible

Go for some test drives and work it out for yourself
All depends on what your requirements are, to some Prados tick more boxes than Pajeros, to others it's the reverse.
Discaimer: I've owned 3 Pajeros from new over 600 000km in past 14 years, considered Prados each time gone Pajeros due to my high kms driven = high vehicle depreciation, deafness (don't hear that road noise) and value in my set of circumtances
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Thursday, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:16

Thursday, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:16
I psent 6 months comparing Prados and Pajeros. New vehicles. At the end I settled on the Pajero. Have owned Toyotas for 25 years but I am afraid the Toyota Tax was too much to bear! The Pajero is super reliable, more powerfull and is better off road. Tows better thanks to the motor in it. Prado for another $10,000 and less features was just not a road to go down. Now have 23,000klms and goes beautifully. Best decision I have ever made. Chap next door has a newish Prado and now wishes he bought the Pajero and decked it out with the money he saved.

As suggested...take each for a drive and compare. Your money-your decision. Good luck with whichever way you go.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Sep 01, 2016 at 17:18

Thursday, Sep 01, 2016 at 17:18
Pretty much agree with above.

The big drawback if a Pajero is the cabin noise on dirt roads. It's deafening. Drumming from bumps and a lot of road noise gets in. It drove me mad. Also watch the rear spare and rear door hotting the tow hitch and a frame. Hope you like loud music to drown it out.

Prados are way more refined except they are a little underwhelming with the power. They may have similar issues with the rear door. I haven't owned a Prado though.

Definitely try both on dirt at 80kmph, and try hitching to see if the doors open.

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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Thursday, Sep 01, 2016 at 18:06

Thursday, Sep 01, 2016 at 18:06
Boobooks right about the spare wheel hight. Most of us fit the spare wheel lift (about $100 and lifts the spare about 50mm(i think)). Took mine up to Cooktown 2 weeks ago via Bloomfield and did not have an issue with noise at all. I know some of the earlier ones did.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Friday, Sep 02, 2016 at 05:17

Friday, Sep 02, 2016 at 05:17
You are probably right Bigfish, The last Pajero i was in was a NT ( 2011?). It was pretty bloody awful on the oodnadatta and Birdsville tracks for drumming. We had to almost shout. I would hope they have improved it for later models.

As to towing. I know that the door can hit the hitch on some campers and not open more than about 25 degrees unless you unhitch. I guess it affects some vans and not others. Just check it before signing on the dotted line. I would do the same for a Prado, but I think the door may be a little higher. Check both.

Having said that, on the road the Pajero handled like a car and I am sure the extra power over a Prado would be useful.

If you can afford it, look at a 200, it's in a different league. So quiet and relaxing on trips. Drinks a bit though.

Nuthin's perfect huh?
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Reply By: Member - Will 76 Series - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2016 at 21:19

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2016 at 21:19
Ray, I read in one of the latest 4x4 magazines that Toyota is not continuing with the FJ. I think the best way to decide is to test drive both the Prado and Pajero it really depends what you want the vehicle to do if it is towing mainly on roads the Pajero is probably the more comfortable?
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2016 at 22:07

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2016 at 22:07
FJ Cruiser only has 2250kg towing.
Don't rule out a brand new Isuzu MU-X with genuine 3ton towing. Get a lot for the money.
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Reply By: gerard m2 - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2016 at 22:14

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2016 at 22:14
Try the new Pajero Sport 3100kg tow capacity
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Thursday, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:18

Thursday, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:18
And like many others it would be bloody dangerous to haul 3100kg behind it!!!

Manufacturers are conning us. Its all about 1 upmanship at the buyers expense.
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Reply By: Rober B - Thursday, Sep 01, 2016 at 15:55

Thursday, Sep 01, 2016 at 15:55
Don't muck about if you have the money get a Dodge Ram 1500 4.2 tonne towing
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Reply By: Member - Broodie H3 - Thursday, Sep 01, 2016 at 17:03

Thursday, Sep 01, 2016 at 17:03
just a quick question ,' what does the van weigh that will determine what you will ultimately buy my tip if the van is around two tonne the Pajero. Toyotas apart from the larger Toyotas don't tow well
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Reply By: mountainman - Friday, Sep 02, 2016 at 00:01

Friday, Sep 02, 2016 at 00:01
Pathfinder 550 V6 diesel
Be a awesome tow car
really good economy too towing or not.
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Reply By: Ray H4 - Friday, Sep 02, 2016 at 12:15

Friday, Sep 02, 2016 at 12:15
Well I am very grateful for the many responses to my question. My wife likes the Prado and I am leaning towards the pajero for the following considerations. It appears that within our budget, $45000, with the pajero you can get a younger veh and fewer klm than the prado and it appears to have the power to handle towing better. I am impressed with the fuel capacity of the Prado, however as mentioned by others a test drive will be in order. Many of the issues mentioned by various reviewers this newer veh will be replacing a 2006 D22 Navara duel cab, which had many modifications. Road noise and dated interior mentioned by various reviewers will not have as much impact as one would think. Once again thank you all for you various inputs it’s all very helpful and we will keep looking
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Friday, Sep 02, 2016 at 13:29

Friday, Sep 02, 2016 at 13:29
Test drive is essential. The Prado is a sought after product and offers excellent resale value and reliability. When comparing purchase price it is not advisable to ignore running costs and reliability as the purchase price soon becomes irrelevant if you are spending more money on maintenance and repairs. I would prefer the Prado over the Pajero only because I have had excellent from Toyota products my whole life. That's not to say the Pajero is not worthy but there is a reason the Prado demands more money IMO.
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Reply By: Winner W - Friday, Sep 02, 2016 at 21:02

Friday, Sep 02, 2016 at 21:02
I tow a big 6m boat with my 2012 Ranger Wildtrak. Just a pleasure. Had to replace wifes Santa Fe with a new car . The new car had to be 4wd and be as good as my Ranger towing , price under $70000 and still drive like a car when not towing. In the end we got a new 2016 NX Pajero Exceed for $59990 to use when my Ranger is being used by the boys. Wife loves it .Best package around. Enjoy your problem to decide what is right for your needs.
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