100 series vs 200 series Sahara - Why are some 200 series cheaper?

Hey Salty Dog - the 4.2 is a legendary motor in both versions...
Depends on what sort of travelling you intend to do but if you're exploring Australia at large especially the outback I'd definitely take the 100 over the 200. I think the 105 (you know the refined 100 would be definitively worth close inspection)

While the new 200 is an amazing vehicle, the V8 has great grunt and the twin turbo rocks - way too many electronics and things to go bump particularly out back - I'm a fan of the less complicated the better for outback touring. I want to drive and control the car, not have it drive for me and sadly newer model seems to be heading in that direction....

I did a massive job for Toyota back in 2014 where we trekked 18,000 kms round the outback with their engineering heads of department (I was a guide) but the scuttlebutt out of those engees is the Turbo 6 is back on the drawing board and will be available as alternative to the V8 with the release of 300 and 70 series of cruisers 2018/19... also 6 speed manual (70) and a 9 speed auto (300)


cheers

Interestingly, when I was at my local yota stealer the other day, I overheard the salesman telling a customer to hold off buying a new 200 as the 300 series is nearly here, the impression I got was late this year.
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Difficult question - there are real issues there but I would take the 200 and try to come up with work arounds - like for the no alternator output issue.
To me - water in fuel would be a more likely issue and either one could use better protection.

We should not over state the 200 series problems though , its a great and basically reliable car.

I have 2 friends who bought 100 series a year ago , one was in mint condition and $60k.

Both are happy , but fitted chips/exhausts etc

I suppose I shouldn't have passed them uphill in my Patrol some time ago. !

Here is something you should be aware of with the 200 engine, how difficult it is to access the fuel cooler, erg valve and starter motor. You may never have to but fore warned is fore armed.

It could be done on the roadside but it would take all day and you would have to have all the gaskets and parts.

Here ia a video of the starter.

[vimeo]Starter motor[/vimeo]

4.2TD 100 series with the 1HD-FTE motor, without doubt.

Phil

I have a 2006 79 series ute, and a 2005 Sahara both done 180K, both spend all their free time off the bitumen.
I also do all my own maintenance.
I replaced the rear coils on the Sahara with airbag man airbags 9 years ago, and the suspension works a treat. It will raise the 50mm in the unlikely event I need to. The ground clearance remains constant loaded or unloaded. And by adjusting the air pressure I can load it as I please, and still maintain the same clearance under the body.
Last time out in the Pilbara (5 weeks ago) was asked to try breath life into to V8 Troop carrier that failed to have a life of its own. Wouldn't start. I did all you can do, which is check the fuses and made sure it had fuel.

Had to drag it 90kms through the desert over across a wide sandy dry river bed, around and over sand dunes and salt pans and sand then stick it on a truck. With the V8s, one just opens the bonnets and then closes it again because there is nothing a mere mortal can do it they stop.

In a few years time the indigenous people of the land are going to be driven completely mad because there will be no more SH Toyotas with the 4.2 diesels and they will be left with the V8 and all that trickery. With the 4.2's you have a chance. With the V8s you have none!

Then there is the issue of the starter in the valley. If you have to pull the starter out of a V8, I think I would buy a new house on a hill for a roll start instead.

Cheers
Donald
PS Just for fun, and NOT suggesting the Toyos axles are a problem, but,
I came across this V8 that broke his rear axle housing on the inside of the RHS spring bolts, carrying 400l of fuel and 100 litres of water. Had to wait three days for a truck.