New Hilux

Hi Kumunara

Thanks for that very interesting link.

Looks like Mr Toyota needs to do some very serious homework.

It was very interesting to see the others cars doing it far better and safer as a higher speed.




Cheers




Stephen

The tyre pressures look quite low from what I saw & the rim size is different to the previous test I believe but the video sure "looks" bad.
Observed a Nissan Navara (current model) go through a roundabout a couple of days ago with a canopy & a roof top tent on board & it looked every bit as bad as the Hilux in the video.
If the video clip is slowed it looks to me as if the wheel input by the driver is a little more "exaggerated" than others in the same clip.Also depends on what suspension set up/settings are on this vehicle as compared to the Australian product.

Cheers
batsy

Batsy, I'm going to guess you're a Hilux owner. Read up on the Moose test. We are not talking about a single run with the driver trying to get the worst possible result. All of the other utes on the market now pass the Moose test but unfortunately the Hilux fails, just as it did 9 years ago.

Even if the pressures are not ideal for this run do Hilux owners check their pressures daily to ensure they can avoid an accident that would have been avoidable had they purchased a different ute?

If only Mr Toyota set up the stability control properly..... It can't be that hard, everyone other brand has managed it, together with help from Bosch.

YEH its a beat up .... and its Europe.

If the Journos could not find something bad and sensational to say, they would not sell magazines or get click thru on their internet sites.

Guess why this is all over social media in sponsored pages.

So how is your "what ever you drive" going to behave once you have those bigger wheels, a suspension lift and all those accessories fitted ...... and a caravan hitched up?

cheers

They call moose elk in Sweden and the test is called the Elk Test. The new shape Jeep Grand Cherokee famously failed the Elk Test a few years ago causing them to say they were unsafe to drive. Well it's a number of years down the track now and I'm not aware of any safety issues with the Jeep GC. I've seen a couple of drivers flip cars doing virtually nothing and then as an eye witness, I've had to explain to the police what happened while thinking to myself "how did they possibly manage that?" Therefore, I reckon you could put those drivers in any car and they'd fail the Elk Test, so it means mothing.

its only a european test -not something that is done in Australia. I can only presume this is as in Europe they aren't able to fix bullbars for animal protection.

As i was taught and it still applies today brake hard (not always possible every time i accept) and keep it straight sure you might stuff a front end to point of a write off but generally a frontal collision with animal is survivable a rollover is far more serious -i'm sure we all seen the videos of the caravan overtaking the b-double as a classic example of when things go wrong

Hi People, I have driven extensively in the bush a 81,85 and 2015 Hilux all new and the last one was a dual cab doing survey work using a chopper. We carted 3 full fuel drums around on some rough roads and tracks , never had a problem .Also owned a mitsubishi for 6 yrs mostly driving on the highway and it was great .In my experience with mates having other makes the Hilux up to 2015 is the most reliable and toughest of them all, if you are mainly driving on good roads some of the other makes are more comfortable and economicall. There is a very good reason most mining and exploration vehicles are toyota and if they weren,t so expensive we might all drive them in the bush.Yes I own a landcruiser 2001, one more bit , the early hiluxs were considered dangerous because of so many rollovers in Oz and I rolled one myself being young and stupidly driving too fast.Hope all of you who own other makes forgive and enjoy your car.